1909 Argentine Mauser

[Calehedron]

I have an 09 Argentine also chambered and stamped for 30-06 and it shoots ok with factory ammo. I tried lead 30cal bullets but after I slugged and got .313, I swapped to the Lyman 314299 200gr duplicate of the 311299. It shoots much tighter groups than ever before and I am still working on a "perfect" load for it. I have no problem chambering bullets sized to .314 and I can slide a bullet into the neck of a fired casing with light resistance.

[EMC45]

Now I need an extractor!!! Broke this one on a piece of 30-06 brass.

[StarMetal]

Gun Parts has one but it's $33.05.

Joe

[EMC45]

Just saw that a lot of folks use a 98 extractor to alleviate the problem of rim thickness. The 98 is a bit cheaper too. That way I wouldn't need to rework the Argentine extractor.

[azrednek]

Interarms rechambered a lot of Argentine military Mausers with a .30-'06 chambering reamer. No change was made to the groove diameter.

If this is the case, it ought to shoot ok with jacketed .308 bullets, but should demand .311 or .312 cast bullets.

That is exactly what mine was like, shot ok with 06 ammo and it was perfectly suitable for deer hunting.

I'm looking at spending $125 ?

That is a steal!! The hinged floorplate mag assy will fetch more than that.

[StarMetal]

Fear not. Here are .312 jacketed bullets that will fit your groove here at Grafs:

http://www.grafs.com/metallic/930

Joe

[EMC45]

Thanks Starmetal!

[StarMetal]

Thanks Starmetal!

Don't forget that's a 7.65 extractor, not the one for say a thicker rimmed 8x57 Mauser.

Go hear for 98 Mauser parts and the extractor for 8x57. From what I've been told by Lothar Walther the 1909 Argentine Mauser action is one of the most close to the 98 Mauser so that extractor should fit.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/products_new.asp?CatID=11950

Joe

[jimkim]

Now I need an extractor!!! Broke this one on a piece of 30-06 brass.

If your near Eastman, I have one I'll give you. PM me to make arrangements.

[EMC45]

I do want it!! Thank you Sir!!! PM sent.

[stephen perry]

Nice to have published data to check on. My copy of the Book of Rifles by Smith and Smith is probably as good as any on military rifles.

They list 2 Argentine Mausers a M1891 and a M1909 both 7.65mm Mausers.
The cartridges for both are .301 bore diameter and .311 groove diameter. so you are in the ballpark with your .312 Cast suggestion and yes as was stated your .308 or 9 jacketed should do fine if you go that way.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I would be very surprised if you could not sell just the complete action for $250 plus shipping.

Rich

[leadman]

I have shot .308" bullets out of my 1891 Arg. 7.65x54 with decent accuracy. Plain base are much better than boat tail.

The 1909 action is larger in diameter than the K98 so if you restock it keep this in mind. I have a 1909 I am working on in 25-06.

You have a wonderful find there and should make a good shooter. The 314299 efinitely is a batter boolit in my 1891.

[StarMetal]

I have shot .308" bullets out of my 1891 Arg. 7.65x54 with decent accuracy. Plain base are much better than boat tail.

The 1909 action is larger in diameter than the K98 so if you restock it keep this in mind. I have a 1909 I am working on in 25-06.

You have a wonderful find there and should make a good shooter. The 314299 efinitely is a batter boolit in my 1891.

leadman,

Are you sure about that?.....

Large Ring M-98
1.410 diameter receiver ring, 8.750 in length, with screw spacing of 7.835. Barrel Shank of 1.100
Large ring have a threaded shank diameter of 1.10 in. With 12 threads per inch.
Including M-98's from WWI and WW2, GEW-98,M-98k, CZ-24, VZ-24,Spanish M-43/44 . Chilean M1912, Steyr Brazilian M1908/34, Brno 98/22, 98/29, DWM / Argentine. M1909, M24/30 Venezuelan, FN M1935 Peruvian, FN Standard Model, Mauser Oberndorf

Now it is larger then this:

WWI German KAR98A,
1.30 diameter. receiver ring, 8.750 in length, with screw spacing, of 7.835 (Long action, Small ring).
Has a threaded shank diameter of 1.100 in. With 12 threads per inch.
WWI German Carbine, Also Polish 98az Uses a standard M-98 Bolt.

Joe

[Gerry N.]

Century reamed a carload of M1909 Arg. Mausers to .30-06 with no attention to either the bore diameter or magazine length. I had one for a while and got rid of it as it was too much grief for me to mess with. I just didn't want to try to lengthen the magazine box and mess with the feed ramp. I had to reseat 150 gr factory loads to get 'em into the magazine, even then It didn't feed for carp and accuracy was non existant. Why in the name of all that's holy they just didn't leave 'em alone is beyond me. They turned pretty nice surplus rifles into pretty nice paperweights.

Your mileage may vary.

Gerry N.