Widener's Has Wolf Primers

[hyoder]

As of 2:00 p.m. CDT, 7/14/09, Widener's has Wolf Primers

[jameslovesjammie]

Wow...the price sure is different than a year ago.

SP $132/5000
LP $135/5000

Weren't these like $89/5000 last summer?

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

demand has changed - supply and demand is the key here

Demand has been severe for about six months and supply has been wiped out, hence the price change. Still a bargain compared to the prices on other brands.

Regards,

Dave

[runfiverun]

they announced a 20-25% increase in price for the wolf's some time ago i have been expecting it once they finished their intro.

[JesterGrin_1]

But Powder Valley will have WOLF primers in on the 15th which is only a few hours away at a cheaper price. It would work out to $127.50 per 5000.

I know that is more expensive than CCI or Winchester or Fed or Remington primers but that is the past which for myself is sad to say.

So the WOLF Primers is still a good deal when you compair prices to the others. But they do have a harder primer shell which takes a harder hammer strike.

And I would like to ask what might be a dumb question lol. I have read that you can sub a Small Rifle primer for a Small Pistol Primer. But is the standard rifle primer as good as a Magnum Small Pistol primer?

[swheeler]

"Weren't these like $89/5000 last summer? " Three or four months ago.

[JesterGrin_1]

This is what they say on the Powder Valley Web Site about WOLF Primers.

We are due to receive a primer shipment from Wolf on July 15. Wolf has provided us with a list of what items we will receive. Based on this information all customers who have a backorder dating June 30 or before should be shipped within one week of Powder Valley receiving the primers. Wolf had a 25% price increase on their primers. All primers will be shipped at the new price.

[Bass Ackward]

But they do have a harder primer shell which takes a harder hammer strike.

And I would like to ask what might be a dumb question lol. I have read that you can sub a Small Rifle primer for a Small Pistol Primer. But is the standard rifle primer as good as a Magnum Small Pistol primer?

I hear this all the time so it must be valid.

Aren't these made for civilian applications with a reputation to establish? I ask because I have been using Wolf pistols for a few months and you can't prove it by me. Coarse they had 3 or 4 months to cure out and dry well acclimating to my humidity levels. Fresh primers always have more risk of moisture in them no matter what the brand.

Never a misfire so far. But I have guns with very little end play too. Even my 625s, that are about as light as I have ever used for hammer fall, go bang. Appearance under pressure seems about like WW to me. Competitive groups, but I am using AR brass too.

Don't use the small rifle variety, so I can't answer your question there. But wouldn't the rifle cup be even thicker / harder than the pistol primer if this is an issue? Magnum pistol primers are noticeably HOTTER than standard pistol too. I would say hotter than anything else I have used in awhile. So you may not need a small rifle primer.

[GabbyM]

Amazing! They still have some today.

Sinclair has Sellier and Bellot Large & Small Rifle Primers. They sell for match primer price but maybe they're good? At least they aren't Russian. I bought CCI benchrest LR primers last week from Powder Valley. They had them for a day.

Also noticed Sinclair has 8lb jugs of H-Varget. Haven't seen any of that for a while. I couldn't get any this summer so picked up some Benchmark for 53 grain 22's. Haven't given it a test yet to see how I like it. All this component scarcity has forced me to test new to me stuff.

[Bad Water Bill]

Got 5K of Wolfe last year I loaded some into 218 Bee brass. 7 of 10 were duds. I broke the duds down and for kicks and curiosity put the primers into 223 brass hoping that the problem was the firing pin not the primer. No luck as they still did not fire. Well 4.900 primers sitting on the wall and your guess is as good as mine as to how many more are duds. This is NOT the first time their SR primers have done this to me.

[Junior1942]

This thread certainly makes up my mind as to whether or not I'll buy a bunch of Wolf primers--NOT!

[jonk]

I've shot over 10,000 wolf primers and never a dud. Excellant consistancy too. I hope Grafs gets some too- I've got a backorder with them for wolfs.

[CSH]

Wolf LP primers at Wideners were $97/5K in Feb. Now they are $135/5K. That's a 38% increase in 5 months, and quite a bit more than the announced 20 - 25% increase. This begs the question, "will the price drop to more reasonable levels once the buying frenzy subsides"? My guess is not by much.

[mike in co]

Got 5K of Wolfe last year I loaded some into 218 Bee brass. 7 of 10 were duds. I broke the duds down and for kicks and curiosity put the primers into 223 brass hoping that the problem was the firing pin not the primer. No luck as they still did not fire. Well 4.900 primers sitting on the wall and your guess is as good as mine as to how many more are duds. This is NOT the first time their SR primers have done this to me.

wolf makes three different sr primers...what did you buy ?

i'll take them.

i sold over 300,000 wolf primers in dec/jan.

i run a biz...and not a single customer has complained about thier primers not working.

personally, if you have 7 duds out ot 10...its the operator, not the primer.

no one can stay in biz with a 70% failure rate.

mike in co

[StarMetal]

I've been using Wolfs for 8 years now. I've never had a misfire. About the only thing I've noticed is this: Sometimes I'll drop a primer on the floor. Well I noticed often with the Wolf primer the anvil will pop out. I've never had that happen with any other brand. This only occurs with large primers...rifle/pistol.

Joe

[BPCR Bill]

I shoot Wolf 22 match ammo, (made in Germany) and 4 years ago it was $24 a brick of 500. Now it's double that, if you can find it. Just like everthing else.

Regards,
Bill

[JesterGrin_1]

The only thing I have used thus far from WOLF is there Large Rifle Primer. And I have found they are much harder to set off than the Federal 210's I have been using. I know this as I have a light hammer spring in my 1895 Marlin GS in 45-70 and would have to strike the Wolf primer 2 times for them to fire. But my Fed 210's fire without a hitch.

So I have to decide if I wish to make the hammer spring stronger for the Wolf or just keep it the way it is and just use Fed 210's

[Hip's Ax]

Federal primers are the most sensitive of all so your claim makes sense.

This is why its generally agreed not to use Federal's in semi auto rifles like the AR, M1 or M1A. I use Federal's in my bolt guns and something else in my semi's.

I use CCI #34 mil spec in my NM M1 7.62 because the 7.62 Garand is the slam fire king of all time. I use CCI BR2 in my 30-06 M1's and my NM M1A. I have been using CCI BR4 in my NM AR but recently bought Wolf SRM as I couldn't find any BR4's for a LONG time. Haven't fired many yet but so far so good.

I did buy a lot of Wolf LR and LRM because a friend of mine that does some pretty heavy in depth testing told me the Wolf is the best large rifle primer bar none. I have a 6.5-284 1000 yard rifle and a 6XC 600 yard rifle on the way and my friend told me in no uncertain terms that I wanted Wolf primers for them.

[Recluse]

This thread certainly makes up my mind as to whether or not I'll buy a bunch of Wolf primers--NOT!

I'm not a fan of Wolf primers, either. I've had sporadic luck with them (small/large pistol) back when they first hit the market.

Some folks have told me they've "improved." I'll take their word for it.

For the price increase they've laid on themselves, they'd better have improved to the point of being perfect.

[shooterg]

Know quote a few who use Wolf SRM in AR's. All are satisfied(including me). Bang every time. Don't see why other sizes would be any different, but haven't been there yet !