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Thread: Over powder wad and filler really helped

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    Boolit Buddy
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    Over powder wad and filler really helped

    In developing a good deer load for my .38-55 H&R Model 1871, I've discovered that adding a milk carton punch-out wad over the powder followed by 1/4 square of rolled/folded toilet paper filler reduced the 50-yard group to 1". Both 25 grains of IMR 4198 and 25 grains of N-130 shoot the .381" 245-grain powder coated Slippery Bullet to the same point of aim at that distance, much better than the 2+ inch group with just the powder load alone. I think I've found my deer hunting load. Next in load-development line is my Martini .219 Zipper.

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    405grain's Avatar
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    Good shooting TRG3! So far, all of the cartridges that I've been able to shoot a 1 MOA (or smaller) cast bullet group with have used a filler to keep the powder charge back near the flash hole. It's a rare event indeed when I can shoot that good, but every time that I've been able to pull it off it's been while using a filler.

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    Boolit Master
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    Half a grain of dacron fluff over 29 grains of 4227 with a 420 grain WFN holds everything in place and give great confidence when aiming at paper or hide. Some folks say it isn't necessary, but a few extra minutes at the reloading bench is a small price for accuracy and satisfaction in the shot.

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    They say using wads can ring a chamber.
    Use a tuft of Dacron pushed loosely over the powder.
    Don`t pack it in.
    Use a loose tuft that fills the space between the powder and the bullet.

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    Boolit Master
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    Kapok from an old life preserver works great and keeps a cardboard wad ringing the chamber. Just experiment with rolling up a small ball of the kapok and stuffing it over the powder. A little too much will not matter but will produce excellent consistant ignition by keeping the powder tight against the primer flash hole. Have used it for 40 years.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check