CMP Reclaimed Garand

[Uncle Grinch]

Anyone received on of the “reclaimed” Garands yet. I’m curious how they look and function. The video they put out and the article in the GCA Journal really talks them up.

[Uncle Grinch]

No one has one yet? I placed an order for a field grade Garand yesterday afternoon. It was $800 plus $35 shipping, which was quite a bit more than my previous purchases. Locally they are going for $1200 - $2200. Too rich for my blood!

[36g]

I've placed an order for a couple of receivers and a barreled action. No response from CMP yet.

[Slugster]

The Garands used to be a great deal back when they were a couple hundred bucks. Now they want way too much money for what you get. On a positive note, the Garands I purchased in the past are now worth a lot more due to the retail price increases.

[Adam Helmer]

I love the Garand and own many. All are slightly older than me and still going strong. I got my first in 1965 for $85.00 and acquired a few after that from DCM for about $118.00 each. Now CMP has "JACKED" all SURPLUS gun prices high to cover their high pay to staff. In my opinion CMP is happily milking a fat udder. I am glad I bought when I did.

Citizen paid-for guns should be priced accordingly. But, paying attorneys $350,000 and more for the director requires BIG prices to the citizens. I will not pay to play their game. Unfortunately, not many today remember how good it used to be.

To wit: Once Upon A Time a Krag rifle was priced at $7.50, M1 Carbines were $17.50 plus $2.50 postage. Need I say more? Times have changed. Whatever?

Adam

[hoodat]

If ya compared the increase in the price of gas since 1965, with the increase of the price of your 85 dollar Garand, these aren't really over priced.

May be a sad testimonial to the value of our US dollar, but --
jd

[Delkal]

The “reclaimed” Garands were welded drill rifles which they cut apart, rewelded any voids, then machined. While I read they did an excellent job with the machining “reclaiming” a welded rifle has always been looked down on. There may be issues with the heat treat.

What I don't like is the receivers are not marked “reclaimed”. Many will be passed on to unknowing buyers in the future.

[johnho]

I love the Garand and own many. All are slightly older than me and still going strong. I got my first in 1965 for $85.00 and acquired a few after that from DCM for about $118.00 each. Now CMP has "JACKED" all SURPLUS gun prices high to cover their high pay to staff. In my opinion CMP is happily milking a fat udder. I am glad I bought when I did.

Citizen paid-for guns should be priced accordingly. But, paying attorneys $350,000 and more for the director requires BIG prices to the citizens. I will not pay to play their game. Unfortunately, not many today remember how good it used to be.

To wit: Once Upon A Time a Krag rifle was priced at $7.50, M1 Carbines were $17.50 plus $2.50 postage. Need I say more? Times have changed. Whatever?

Adam

Hey, I'll give you a 100 bucks for that $85 rifle. Or do you want the current market price people are asking after all the "jacked" pricing? Edit. Just for fun I figured out the value of $85 for 60 years at 4% interest. Comes out to $894.17. Hmmmmm. And what are they selling for now at the CMP?

[Adam Helmer]

johnho,

Ok, I get your point, but what COST does CMP incur for ALREADY made, taxpayer paid for and delivered arms? The only cost I see is salaries for HIGH paid functionaries. Buy all the CMP "Bargains" you desire. I have my doubts and your mileage may vary.

What would my 1965 M1 Carbine for $17.50 shake out to? Be well.


Adam

[K43]

You can read all about the process CMP is using with these reclaimed drill rifle receivers at the CMP website here. Too much to copy and paste in thread post.
https://thecmp.org/cmp-reclaimed-rec...nd-procedures/

[K43]

johnho,

Ok, I get your point, but what COST does CMP incur for ALREADY made, taxpayer paid for and delivered arms? The only cost I see is salaries for HIGH paid functionaries. Buy all the CMP "Bargains" you desire. I have my doubts and your mileage may vary.

What would my 1965 M1 Carbine for $17.50 shake out to? Be well.


Adam

Transportation, storage, inspection, repairs/replacement of part, test firing every single one, infrastructure for buildings including utilities,maintenance, and employee accommodations, etc. The CMP doesn't operate on free anything anymore than any other company or entity.
For those who don't know, every government agency, including all military activities, get billed and have to pay for these things out of their budget. Nothing is free.

[johnho]

Transportation, storage, inspection, repairs/replacement of part, test firing every single one, infrastructure for buildings including utilities,maintenance, and employee accommodations, etc. The CMP doesn't operate on free anything anymore than any other company or entity.
For those who don't know, every government agency, including all military activities, get billed and have to pay for these things out of their budget. Nothing is free.

And don't forget that new range they just put in along with the regional matches they put on. I think they are taking over all the rifle and pistol shooting programs from the NRA after their fiascos with good ole Wayne.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

High, high, high--prices are high on everything nowadays from beef to gasoline. The older-than-me folks used to talk about the price of a quart of milk or loaf of bread back during the Great Depression, and complained about the cost of such items in the '60s-'80s. Stuff just continues to go up until some items are out of reach for the average income. Time was you could buy two or three houses for today's price of a new motor vehicle.

As for gun prices, the same is pretty much true. But, there are exceptions. Seems like some reasonably priced rifles out there by folks like Savage and Mossberg that are very accurate right out of the box, although made of non-traditional materials. Synthetic stocks, for one, alloy and plastic minor parts for another. I was in my "local" chain store yesterday and there were easily 150 long guns displayed. I noted that there were only three with wooden stocks, a Ruger 10-22, a Savage bolt action .22 that had a laminated stock, and a Heritage .44 Mag. lever action. Later I stopped in at the pawn shop and the reverse was true. All wood, very little plastic. Beautiful older rifles like Savage 99s, Remington 700s, etc. Their prices are high also, but at least they'll usually consider a fair offer.

As for M1 Garands, I got mine, several, over the years, and none of them came easy. I carried one for many a mile in the Army back in the early '60s, and despite its weight came to love it. When I got out of the service I badly wanted to have one of my own but at the time the only ones available were being imported from Britain and ran around $89. Far beyond the budget of a guy making $1.50 hr. Eventually I purchased four "condemned" receivers from Gun Parts Corp. for $65 each. One appeared to have been run over by a heavy vehicle and was sort of squashed, but the other three were quite serviceable with just minor pitting below the wood line. I barreled them up using new Criterion barrels and a pull through chambering reamer, new or almost new component parts, and was rewarded with three rifles that really shot quite well. The squashed receiver project never got completed, but it's still out there in the shop and doesn't eat anything. Then, along came the CMP sales, at the time limited to one rifle per customer for life, got a buddy to apply for one and paid his way including meals to the qualifying match. I got mine, and his also, mine in very good condition and his on the low end of excellent condition. As an FFL dealer at the time, I acquired three of the Blue Sky M1s, and they were pretty well shot out. I re-barreled them, and they were also quite satisfactory. The last thing I can
remember doing in my M1 journey was buying a H&R receiver on Gunbroker and building it up into a complete rifle. I used a Bishop semi-fancy grade walnut semi-inletted stock, and it is a beautiful rifle that also shoots well. Along came the necessity to sell of a large portion of my collection to finance a new water well, but I've still got five of them.

Is there a moral or lesson to all of this? None intended, really, except to illustrate the point that there is sometimes a way around high prices. I could most likely afford to pay the price of a current CMP offering, but no longer need another. Their asking prices aren't too far out of line, considering what a truly great rifle and great piece of history the M1 represents. Maybe The Donald will allow some of our allies like S. Korea to return some of the multiple thousands they have in storage, and the prices will become more reasonable. What with WW II and Korean War production and a trickle of production after the wars there were around 6 million of them out there. That's a lot of anything!

DG

[Adam Helmer]

johnho,

Ok, I get your point, but what COST does CMP incur for ALREADY made, taxpayer paid for and delivered arms? The only cost I see is salaries for HIGH paid functionaries. Buy all the CMP "Bargains" you desire. I have my doubts and your mileage may vary. So be it. Be well.

Adam

[deces]

I've never bought from cmp because of their stupid hurdles. I probably never will.

[M-Tecs]

johnho,

Ok, I get your point, but what COST does CMP incur for ALREADY made, taxpayer paid for and delivered arms? The only cost I see is salaries for HIGH paid functionaries. Buy all the CMP "Bargains" you desire. I have my doubts and your mileage may vary. So be it. Be well.

Adam

The only reason the CPM is selling these are funding it's much broader mission. Had Clinton/Gore not defunded the DCM you would not be seeing the current prices from the CPM.

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