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Thread: I won't give up on Lee 200gr SWC in 1911 - but I'm sure struggling

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    "just barely jumping and falling out" sounds like light charge if you are consistant then up laod a tenth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce381 View Post
    your load is fine but TAPER CRIMP to .468 to .470 replace the LEE factory crimp die did not work 100% for me in that some cases are thick walled and die would size DOWN in size making bullet set back a little when entering chamber I went to regular TAPPER crimp problem gone try that too.
    Bruce, yes I believe the FCD swages my bullet for sure. I was getting lead pushing out of the mouth sometimes. I already bought a Lee taper crimp die and successfully shot some using that today. But it’s not set for enough crimp and I’m getting brass strips all over.

    1) My flare/bell is .478 (kinda high but I’m trying to not cut the PC during seating only - no crimp on station 3. Station 4 Crimp die is .472 right now.
    2) how does one accurately measure the crimp? Just the very tip edge or is just behind it OK?

    Once I have a finalized load, I’ll setup Dillon tool head with better die, but I do all this frequent change work on a Lee equipment.

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    Will do this too. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce381 View Post
    good if you are 100% feeding and firing you are on the way. Look up extractor "clocking" this is when the extractor turns on its axis and moves like a clock hand not staying
    at 90 Degrees or wherever it is supposed to be. You can tighten it to stay in one place but have to smak it with a chisel hard for me to explan but that will make brass go all over as well as not enough tension.
    Yeah, this happened even while re-installing it was clocking on me and hard to keep ‘straight’. Are 1911 extractors not meant to be removed/installed more than a few times before they wear?

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    great news. the only safety concern I would have now is that the thin wall of the case is unsupported by the chamber after the throating operation. take your caliper and extend it inside an empty brass case until it reaches the bottom. this is the measurement of the case wall that needs to be supported by the chamber. I measured 2 different brands of brass I have and got .735 and .712. now take your caliper and put it on the outside of the case and mark it exactly with a fine felt pen. this is the point where the case must be inside the chamber. put the case inside the barrel where the throating was done and if you can see the felt pen mark the thin wall of the case is unsupported. I don't need to tell you this could result in a case rupture, you know it already.

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