Seen this tonight

[Adam Helmer]

johnho,

Many thanks for the information about CMP. It sure looks like a Fat UDDER! Only a half million annual salary for the CEO. Wow, no wonder we will never see FAIR Surplus arms prices ever again even if CMP has a third of a BILLION in assets. Thank you sir, and I rest my case. I got my U.S. Surplus arms long ago before this nightmare took over....

Be well.

Adam

[gc45]

johnho,

Many thanks for the information about CMP. It sure looks like a Fat UDDER! Only a half million annual salary for the CEO. Wow, no wonder we will never see FAIR Surplus arms prices ever again even if CMP has a third of a BILLION in assets. Thank you sir, and I rest my case. I got my U.S. Surplus arms long ago before this nightmare took over....

Be well.

Adam

Good post! to add, when guns become collectable, prices skyrocket. I think most people wanting anything military are today collectors looking for profit at some point; yes some will just shoot them but where I live these guns cost a small fortune at guns shows or gun stores. With military ammo pretty dried up now, who can afford to shoot their M-1 anyway? heck, the ammo is now collectable and very high priced at gun shows as well.

[dale2242]

I am on a fixed income and came afford to shoot my M1 with cast bullets.
I have 8 pounds of IMR 4895.
At 32 gr a shot it will go a long way.
Yes, 32 gr will cycle my rifle with most any cast bullet from 150gr. to 180gr.

[TNsailorman]

While I generally agree with the above post, one thing is wrong. IF you can load for a bolt action 30-06, you can load for the M1 Garand, which is just a semi auto 30-06 and with the right powder selection (no slow burning stuff), loading 30-06 is loading 30-06. I have loaded for both for over 60 years without a problem. Today's prices do complicate things for some of us as the highly inflated prices of reloading components is beginning to hurt the market. My problem is that I can remember when I could buy a box of 12 gauge shells at the local hardware store for $.50 a box and if you didn't have the money for a full box, they would sell you individual shells for .02 cents a shell. Good folks and very gun orientated. my experience anyway, james

[GONRA]

GONRA sez - be SURE to use CCI Military Primers to avid slam fires! !!
NOT KIDDING !!

[K43]

When I got a CMP M1 the requirements were: One (1) purchase in a lifetime for personal use only, not resale. You had to show you shot in a CMP sanctioned match or a CMP clinic that CMP sponsored to get people involved Highpower competition (the CMP supplied gun and ammo for the events). You had to belong to a CMP associated club. That was to show intent and ability to participate which was the intent of selling the M1 to you.
Then they allowed multiple purchases per year (I recall maybe 6). Then CMP allowed membership in a collector's club and no shooting required. THAT marked the biggest derivation from the whole intent of the CMP. Now, well, even a not for profit created by Congress, but not funded by Congress, has to make money to stay in business.
What am I going to do besides yell at the clouds and commiserate with like minded fellows? Right, nothing, just complain as the system carries on.

[M-Tecs]

When I got a CMP M1 the requirements were: One (1) purchase in a lifetime for personal use only, not resale. You had to show you shot in a CMP sanctioned match or a CMP clinic that CMP sponsored to get people involved Highpower competition (the CMP supplied gun and ammo for the events). You had to belong to a CMP associated club.
Then they allowed multiple purchases per year (I recall maybe 6). Then CMP allowed membership in a collector's club and no shooting required. THAT marked the biggest derivation from the whole intent of the CMP. Now, well, even a not for profit created by Congress, but not funded by Congress, has to make money to stay in business.
What am I going to do besides yell at the clouds and commiserate with like minded fellows? Right, nothing, just complain as the system carries on.

Agreed but the DCM and the CMP were very different organizations. The DCM ended in 1996 via Clinton/Gore after Congress overrode Clinton/Gores attempts to kill it 100%. Congress passed legislation privatizing the program. The DCM was under the Department of the Army from 1903 until 1996.

The multiple purchases and the price increases happened under the CMP since it was their only funding stream.

[country gent]

A little more to think about. Now that they are authorized to sell pistols (1911s) where are some of the 1917s that should still be in storage?