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Thread: Paper patched bullet for 22 Savage Hi-Power

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    Boolit Buddy Old Coot's Avatar
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    Yeah Charlie it seems that keeping the temperature up when casting small bullets (22, 25, etc) is the key. That relatively large mould block and cut off plate seem to suck the heat out of the lead and make good fill out hard to get. Hence flooding the cut off plate and using a higher temp. lead, and higher block temp seem to be the key to success. Brodie

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303Guy View Post
    There is a paper thin enough to patch a .224 boolit that might fit a fired neck without sizing either boolit or neck and that is baking paper (or vellum). Tough stuff. It measures 0.05mm/.002" so a double wrap would increase the diameter to .232 which is fine if not a little small. A thicker paper or three wraps would bring the diameter up to seat firmly in an unsized neck. Seat just deep enough so that the boolit touches the leade without the base protruding into the case.

    Another option is to make bullets using spent 22lr cases. I have done this but it is a bit of a mission. I soldered into the heated case then swage them down - the excess solder extruded out a bleed hole in the nose of the die. I never did try them (only made two).

    You might even find someone to make you a push through sizer. I would offer but I know it takes me forever to get round to doing things.

    I have patched a few boolits for my hornet.



    The paper was a thick tracing paper and no sizing was done.



    I can't tell you the accuracy but they worked fine into a 'test tube'. These were .224 cast, wrapped with thick paper fired in a .223 grooved bore.

    So I would expect a .224 boolit patched with ordinary paper to work unsized.
    This is awesome! Closest I got to this was/is, i used a bath towel cross patch to shoot .430 208gr WC's out of my .45 T/C Hawken. I might end up with a combo gun with a .22 Hi-power chamber. Been searching about it. Todd/3leg

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    Seems a bit wasteful using 25-35 brass so to make 22 HP. But I can offer a Tip for the process (pre-fired 25-35 to 22HP). Consider Annealing the 25-35 before it resizing.

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    When it comes to making 25/35 from 30/30, I was advised to use a Lee 32-40 FL die (currently in stock at Titan) as a body die to more easily gain the long taper. I could imagine that with the expander removed it would be preferable to begin with, then a 25/35 die and so forth for reforming to .22 High Power.

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    Last edited by Three44s; 05-31-2021 at 01:27 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bret4207

    “There is more to this than dumping lead in a hole.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Legend has it that only girls were dextrous enough to patch .22 bullets in the days when they were loaded in factory ammunition in the late 1800s.

    I know I sure ain't.

    For a .228-groove Stevens single-shot I lapped out a Lee Bator mould. Aluminum laps quickly.
    That's because the guys were too busy scratching their _____...well, you know.

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    Hey if a guy can learn to put in contact l

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    S&B brass is very nice brass and loaded ammo is nearly the cost of brass. Buffalo Arms has a selection of 228 bullets, I keep a stock of 55gr on hand for coyoote hunting with my BRNO combo gun in 12ga/5.6x52R(22 HP)

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    I save my paper patching for stuff like my 9.3x72R that has a reallly odd barrel .364 groove diameter and .346 bore, tall skinny lands

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    I realise this is an old thread but maybes owners of 22 hi power will still read the thread and appreciate my response.
    I bought a 22 hi power 1899 and all the hassle that goes with the caliber.
    I tried patching with cigarette papers, teflon plumbers tape sometimes it worked well, sometimes it didn't.
    My greatest success came with powder coating. Unlike PC for pistol boolits doing it for the 22HP requires , for me, several passes through the coating process and, to prevent uneven coating, it's best to bake the boolits nose down in a jig.
    powder coat in holders.jpg I bought the drilled alloy plate off of e-bay after spending ages making my own.
    cast boolits sized at 0.225" took 3 coats to bring them up to 0.2275"ish and these boolits were 55 grains and they did really well.
    Buoyed up by this success I did the same to PPU 62 grain BTSP jacketed bullets and the results were even better.
    My advice is forget paper patching, once set up powder coating is much less frustrating - fwiw the cast boolits were also gas checked.
    If you want a mold to suit, MP molds do a 0.227"mold and also a sizer in that diameter, but it's just as easy for me to buy 55 cast boolits at 0.225" and gc and pc them, if I need more.
    Regards,
    John.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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