Shooters World Multi Purpose Black

[doccash]

I have some ordered but not here yet. I have had really good luck with Blackhorn 209 but I am not going to pay 180.00 $ per pound for it, I just refuse to do so. I understand that the Shooters World MPB s the same powder as Alliants Black MZ which I have never used, or even heard of until recently. Blackhorn 209 is actually a smokeless powder with something that smokes a little added to it. I always shot Blackhorn in 45-70, 45-90, 50-110, 50-95, 40-82, 40-65, 45-60, 40-60, and 50-100 in loads by the grain with a Walters .060 wad on top of the powder without the thought of using fillers since it is a smokeless powder and my reloads with cast bullets (20:1) and Federal 215 primers have performed to my satisfaction. Question is with Shooters World MPB has anyone heard that it is actually a smoking smokeless powder like Blackhorn and if not does it require fillers to fill space not occupied by the propellant powder? Thanks for your input. Dr.C

[Barry54]

I concur with you on the $180 per pound powder. They can keep it! I’d rather buy a new 22 rifle vs those two little vessels of powder. It’s no way in Hades it costs that much to produce. Maybe it’s priced high considering it would take muzzle loader hunters several years to use a bottle?

I’m definitely interested in the competition. First I’ve heard of it. And first mention of it having a smoke additive intentionally. Kinda like an electric car playing V8 engine sounds through speakers...

Looking forward to seeing your results! I’d like some if it really is smokeless powder and affordable.

[Don McDowell]

Looks like the Shooters World powder is simply APP repackaged in Shooters World cans. You'll still need to clean the cases to keep them from corroding.
BH209 was a mix of smokeless and KIK, after the Goex powder got sold to Hogdons and then the KIK factory(which was a subsidirary of Goex at the time used mainly for Rocket propellant and the excess was sold as sporting powder) got closed down I suspect that Western Powders had to scramble to find another blackpowder manufacturer and reformulate. Hence the silly prices now.

[doccash]

In the FWIW department and certainly not very scientific. I got the Shooters World Multi Purpose Black powder at the end of last week. Anxious to try it out and with scant data to base my reloading on, I grabbed some 45-90 cases and loaded them exactly like I would have loaded them with Blackhorn 209. Blackhorn 209 is much more energetic imo with no chronographic recordings to base my opinion on, seat of the pants and SWAG data only. I will do better than that soon. The accuracy of that load was excellent and the amount of smoke produced rivaled or exceeded Swiss 1.5 F. The SWMPB metered perfectly through the Redding powder measure and ignited well with CCI 200 primers. The next day I used a full case of SWMPB powder with minimal compression and my 300 grain cast plain base flat point boolit produced a 1.5" inch group in exactly the same spot on the target that the previous loading had produced at 60 yards the day before. Still plenty of smoke and increased velocity measured in the same fashion as the first session(seat of pants and SWAG}. I am pleased with the product and its price and cleanup is effortless with just Hoppes #9 and 3 or 4 patches. I hunted Pronghorn Antelope with that 45-90 all day Sunday and will continue until the end of season with great confidence in rifle and load.