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    Ric,

    That Gemmer Kit I built weighs over 10 lbs. That’s why it is not necessarily my favorite woods walking rifle. It will flat wear you out packing it around. It’s great to put it in the rack on the 4 wheeler and go to a hunting spot where you don’t have to walk to far. It points great with all that forward weight and when swinging it you don’t have to worry about follow through. Once you get that heavy sucker moving it follows through on its own wether you need it to or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boerrancher View Post
    Ric,

    That Gemmer Kit I built weighs over 10 lbs. That’s why it is not necessarily my favorite woods walking rifle. It will flat wear you out packing it around. It’s great to put it in the rack on the 4 wheeler and go to a hunting spot where you don’t have to walk to far. It points great with all that forward weight and when swinging it you don’t have to worry about follow through. Once you get that heavy sucker moving it follows through on its own wether you need it to or not.
    Just think about the GIs in WWII, carrying around those M1 Garands day in and day out, I'm sure they would all feel really sorry for you.
    My dad's cousin carried one all over Europe and always said what a great rifle it was, he never complained about the weight.
    I sure do miss the old guy.

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    [QUOTE=elmacgyver0;5754067]Just think about the GIs in WWII, carrying around those M1 Garands day in and day out, I'm sure they would all feel really sorry for you.
    My dad's cousin carried one all over Europe and always said what a great rifle it was, he never complained about the weight.
    I sure do miss the old guy.[/QUOTE]

    He wasn't old when he was carrying that heavy Garand and it was a life saver for him! I pity the guys carrying the 22 pound BAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmacgyver0 View Post
    Just think about the GIs in WWII, carrying around those M1 Garands day in and day out, I'm sure they would all feel really sorry for you.
    My dad's cousin carried one all over Europe and always said what a great rifle it was, he never complained about the weight.
    I sure do miss the old guy.
    In the early 1990s through the early 2000s I weighed 200 lbs. Most of the time when I was jumping into many an undisclosed location, I boarded the aircraft at 600 +/-10 lbs with my Chute and misson essential equipment. I often carried an M21 Sniper system, with a 20 round mag, and 8 more on my LBE and 4 more on my Ruck, plus another full loading for all of the mags in bandoliers in the ruck. My rucksack weighed 110-120 lbs, not counting my 40 lb LBE. That was dry weight. Not counting a few MREs, and two, 2 qt canteens full, on the ruck, and two, 1 qt canteens on the LBE. The 7.62 NATO AMMO I carried wasn’t the light weight M80 FMJ, it was the M118 Special Ball LR. I would travel 15 to 30 Km per day with that load, the rifle loaded weighing nearly 15 lbs.

    I was 23-35 years old then. Just before I broke my back and pelvis and nearly had my right arm nearly amputated at the shoulder by a 3x4x6 inch triangular piece of shrapnel. Now that I am in my Mid 50s I don’t get along as well as I did back then, so yes a 10 lb Rifle is a lot for me to pack all day, especially when I was told I would never walk again nor have much use of that arm. I am doing both. It took me years to recover but I willed it into being.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check