Only time I was hit with consequences was when I was RO'ing an indoor bowling in match. Guy I was holding the timer behind had loaded his 38's so light they were bouncing off the pins - and one bounced back square in the twins. Dropped me like a bad habit, Everyone ELSE was laughing while I lay on the floor groaning. Oh yeah, NOW it's funny, but back then it wasn't...
But back to seriousness, North American Rescue has tons of pre built medical kits of all sizes to choose from.
My favorite first aid kit, which has never let me down is a roll of shop wipes, and a roll of the cheap duc tape. I like the cheap stuff because it's thinner and easier to tear into thinner strips, and more flexible for wrapping and conforming to irregular shapes like body parts. Add a tube antibiotic ointment, and I'm a happy camper.
The shop wipes can easily be cut, torn or folded to proper size to wrap and staunch blood flow from a serious laceration, or even amputation. and the tape will wrap and stick where needed, even acting as a tourniquet if necessary. jd
It seems that people who do almost nothing, often complain loudly when it's time to do it.
Good story. I shot myself in the groin with a 357 Mag once. It was an indoor range, very experienced pistol shooter. He had put a couple pieces of firewood in the bullet trap. I was hit inside left thigh high up about a half inch from a real extreme pain source. Barely left a bruise.
I generally cary some basic first aid stuuf, but a gunshot kit makes a lot of sense for range time.
I was curious so looked at their website. This pack seems to be a good one, a step above duct tape and dressing. It does have a tourniquet so get some training on how to use each of the components. Looked like their next lower version was basically duct tape and bandage.
https://www.narescue.com/outdoor-adv...-camo-rtc.html
"PrepMedic" on youtube is timely and informative, he's an experienced ESM.
He deals with equipment types and uses and shows what he uses in his day job.
Gun control is not about guns.
As an army medic we had access to all sorts of emergency equipment. One of the more useful things was a wire mesh splint that can be used on an arm. In my experience, most commercial-off-the-shelf first aid kits are of no use whatever in the event of a potentially fatal injury. As mentioned previously, women's maternity pads make great dressings. I would include a large amount of clean rags. They are good for all sorts of uses from tying on a splint to bandaging or making a sling.
Wayne
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My club does dot allow any steel shooting closer than 25 yards. And, the steel targets are angled downward deflecting the bullets into the ground.
Hanging chains are always Behind the target and never in the line of fire.
So far after tens of thousands of rounds fired over the years, no one has been hit by fragments or bullets bouncing back to the firing line.
Great post! 👍
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THANK YOU for posting your experience, and happy consequences -- skin broken only on a hand -- were sooooo minor. BUT -- in "prep for the worst" -- you definitely reinforced something I did NOT employ last trip to the range. To wit, it was sunny -- no clouds -- en route, and (Murphy Law?) but a few minutes post my stapling up my targets, a heavy cloud cover rolled in. I was shooting two revolvers, and had brought a semi- carbine, but fired only the wheel guns. Having had cataract surgery six months back, I alllmost do not need glasses for my right eye -- so I had enormous fun (as always) shooting -- BUT, after taking off my Rx sunglasses, I was without any eye protection whatever!
An initial thought vis your brother getting hit by your three ricochets was, "wow! awesomely great that none hit him in an eye!" -- followed by an 'OMG" -- stupid Geo HAD a pair of safety glasses in the "shooting box" (pasters, targets, stapler, 'ears', etc.) -- and was both toooo dumb and lazy to get them and put them on.
Again -- thanks for the "wake-up call"!!!!!
geo
What type of projectile and how many FPS? What hit him a piece of frag or a fully intact projectile? we all need to learn from these incidents.Originally Posted by epilatos
Regarding the KIT. Given the heat you encounter I would want a couple cold packs of the type you crack and they are quickly cold. Heat stroke is a issue I'm sure or sometimes the calming effect of the cold while involved in something else.
Also carry a water jug. A very useful item is to take a used laundry detergent jug with the valve type and clean it out fill with fresh water every trip to the range. Makes a great hand washing station but obviously would help to clean out wounds.
I can't remember what recipe of mine I was shooting that day. I stick to the low/mid range of charge for plinking. They were FMJ I'm going to bet it was fragments.
We ALWAYS take plenty of water when going out in the desert. Great idea on the detergent type jug for cleaning. Never would have thought of that. Thank you.
Hello! I have been a surgeon for 19 years. I live in the outskirts of Buenos Aires. I am increasingly less able to be surprised. When things happen, rapid transport to a hospital is more important than anything else.
The list you provided is very complete, I would add some device to immobilize the legs/arms in case of a fracture.
I agree with you regarding knowing how to use the elements.
Early diagnosis of the severity of a wound requires knowledge and EXPERIENCE. The latter is the most important.
Many years ago I took a course called ATLS (Advanced Trauma Life Support) and I remember hearing that there are such courses for non-physicians. My recommendation is that you take one of those, and if possible, learn how to do cardiac massage. The latter is the most frequent cause of death in the Western world. What kills a person quickly is the acute loss of blood and the lack of oxygen (for example, due to a pneumothorax, although hypertensive pneumothorax does not kill due to lack of oxygen). If someone receives a bullet in the heart, there is nothing that can be done in the field. I have sutured 2 hearts in the emergency room, one lived, the other died. One was a murderer who was executed by the neighbors in the neighborhood. The other was a boy who lost a skirt fight. Guess which one was saved?
In my first aid box, I carry a scalpel, some gauze, some bandages and some gloves. At one time, I carried a Kocher's forceps, I don't even remember where I left them. A Kocher's forceps is something very useful, and I would add it to your first aid kit
I've already gone off on a tangent, if you have any questions, I have no problem answering them.
We electricians call "zip ties" Ty Wraps after the brand name. Get some long ones in case you need to make a tourniquet. They will not work loose like a bandana or tee shirt torn in strips.
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us! The more I travel, the more I like right where I am.
Just get a tourniquet. I use Ty wraps for a lot of things but that wouldn’t be one of them. Tq’s are wide for a reason.
https://www.mountainmanmedical.com/w...niquet-matter/
What is left of rifle, I just got a few welts from shrapnel. Went to the house for bandaid. Could have been much worse - be prepared.
Whatever!
I noted no one has mentioned WATER! I keep, as part of my "prep kit" in truck, two plastic supermarket-bought water bottles. From rinsing "whatever" from an eye, to irrigating a wound, or evenproviding a drink when one seems at the brink of hypo-hydration -- these do not take up much space and surely are worth having. A few folks I know keep a couple or three water bottles simply stored -- loose and most easily accessible -- UNDER the front seat of their respective vehicles!
...Just an item you may wish to add...
geo
Yes sir, water is a must out here. I keep a bottle of distilled water in the vehicles year round just in case of over heating vehicles. In addition to that we always go out with no less than a cooler full of bottled drinking water. Dehydration is definitely a major concern for us desert folk.I noted no one has mentioned WATER! I keep, as part of my "prep kit" in truck, two plastic supermarket-bought water bottles. From rinsing "whatever" from an eye, to irrigating a wound, or even
...Just an item you may wish to add...
geo
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