Say that title 3 times fast. So since pistol primers are easier to come by and somewhat cheap(ish), I decided to burn a few on a Sunday afternoon. Broke out my bullet molds and cast a few hot glue bullets. Yep, hot glue. Pushed them with nothing but a primer in 9mm and 38spl. Minute of 8.5x11 paper at 10ft. Id recommend drilling flash hole larger on the revolver brass. No it didn't cycle in the 9mm pistol. I guess we could call it trigger control training. Seated them with nothing but thumb pressure, no flare and no crimp. I think I've shot the 38 about 5 times now and still reusing it. Nice rifling marks on it. Wont go through card board at that distance but a card board box will make a trap. They also don't cut clean holes in paper.