Are we living in the end times?

[exile]

That is the version I read.

I started out with the NIV and read it for years and years, but I did not find it to be terribly accurate. I then tried the NASB for a while, (I have heard that it is the most accurate modern translation) but I did not find it to be as readable as the NIV.

When the ESV came out, I checked it against the NASB and the King James version long enough to determine that (for me) it was the best balance between accuracy and readability that I could find.

I know it is not a real translation (it is a revision of the RSV) and I always said that I would never read a paraphrased version of Scripture, but I like it very much.

When you add the fact that Crossway publishers seem to be in business to get the Bible into as many hands as possible with a minimum profit motive (they may be totally non-profit, I don't know), I am sold on the ESV.

It may help you to know that no one agrees with my reasoning on this matter, but hey, such is life.

This is probably more information than you wanted, but I hope I answered your question.

Regards,

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[Nines&Twos]

It may help you to know that no one agrees with my reasoning on this matter, but hey, such is life.

Are you at peace with our Father on this matter? Then tell everyone to pound sand....you clearly spend much time immersed in that version of His word....it surprises some men to know....you do NOT need their permission to study whatever you choose.
I stick with the KJV myself because of James Strong's concordance. My go to study Bible is Bullinger's companion bible but I would rather see a man study hard under his own choice of translation ....under the tutelage of our Father of course!....than some one trick pony that reads a few verses and mouths off for an hour.
I have seen verses in the NIV I do NOT like though. Meanings of the Word changed completely because of the work of some scribe. These 'scribes' are tares and will pay dearly for it.

[Good Cheer]

That is the version I read.

I started out with the NIV and read it for years and years, but I did not find it to be terribly accurate. I then tried the NASB for a while, (I have heard that it is the most accurate modern translation) but I did not find it to be as readable as the NIV.

When the ESV came out, I checked it against the NASB and the King James version long enough to determine that (for me) it was the best balance between accuracy and readability that I could find.

I know it is not a real translation (it is a revision of the RSV) and I always said that I would never read a paraphrased version of Scripture, but I like it very much.

When you add the fact that Crossway publishers seem to be in business to get the Bible into as many hands as possible with a minimum profit motive (they may be totally non-profit, I don't know), I am sold on the ESV.

It may help you to know that no one agrees with my reasoning on this matter, but hey, such is life.

This is probably more information than you wanted, but I hope I answered your question.

Regards,

exile

hey there.
I was curious. I've stuck with the KJV because of all the reference materials that are keyed to it that makes study easier for me.

[exile]

The post 1978 NIV is something I will not read. I too have Strong's concordance and my grandmother's King James bible, so my bases are covered.

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[Good Cheer]

I've found the Green's Interlinear to be very helpful as well. It's available electronically on the internet now but I do much better with the printed page. Seems like every time I search for stuff on line there's just oodles and scads of websites to choose from, sending the world throughout the world.

[Hickory]

Are we living in the end times?

I doubt it. Being a student of history I have noticed that every 50 to 80 years people get tired of peace and prosparity and start razing hell because they begin to believe the lies of politicans and the news media.

[Alabama358]

I doubt it. Being a student of history I have noticed that every 50 to 80 years people get tired of peace and prosparity and start razing hell because they begin to believe the lies of politicans and the news media.

You may be right... I wonder during some of the below conflicts if folks were screaming END TIMES, especially during some of the Big ones.

I will say that our current environment feels different (to me) then past years but I am sure each felt unique in one way or the other to the folks at the time.

We will just have to keep watching as things unfold... That is why the Good Lord laid things out for us in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21

Wars and Rumors of Wars of just the 20th century

1900–2000
Acehnese War (1873–1904)
Philippine-American War (1899–1902)
South African War (1899–1902)
The War of a Thousand Days (1899–1903)
Boxer Rebellion (1900–01)
Moro Wars (1901–13)
Russo-Japanese War (1904–05)
Pig War (1906–09)
Mexican Revolution (1910–20)
Italo-Turkish War (1911–12)
World War I (1914–18)
Baltic War of Liberation (1918–20)
Russian Civil War (1918–20)
Russo-Polish War (1919–20)
Rif War (1921–26)
Chaco War (1932–35)
Italo-Ethiopian War (1935–36)
Spanish Civil War (1936–39)
Sino-Japanese War (1937–45)
Phony War (1939–40; no actual hostilities)
Russo-Finnish War (1939–40)
World War II (1939–45)
Greek Civil War (1944–45; 1946–49)
Arab-Israeli wars (1948–49; 1956; 1967; 1973; 1982)
Korean War (1950–53)
Algerian War (1954–62)
Vietnam War (1954–75)
Six-Day War (1967)
War of Attrition (1969–70)
Yom Kippur War (1973)
Dirty War (1976–83)
Afghan War (1978–92)
Iran-Iraq War (1980–88)
Falkland Islands War (1982)
Persian Gulf War (1990–91)
Bosnian conflict (1992–95)
Kosovo conflict (1998–99)

[exile]

"You only have I known of all the families of the earth;..."

Amos 3:2 (Darby)

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[Good Cheer]

"You only have I known of all the families of the earth;..."

Amos 3:2 (Darby)

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Soak up the whole of Amos 3, not just part of what 3:2 says.
Read what 3:1 says. And the fullness of 3:2 without it being sanitized.
Read the indictment, all the way to 3:15.

[exile]

"For behold, he who forms the mountains and creates the wind, and declares to man what is his thought, who makes the morning darkness, and treads on the heights of the earth-the Lord, the God of hosts, is his name!"

Amos 4:13 (E.S.V.)

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[elmacgyver0]

Every generation has said it is the end times, so it must be true.

[Good Cheer]

Heh, this is the generation of the fig tree.
If you don't want to see it then by all means don't look.

[Nines&Twos]

Heh, this is the generation of the fig tree.
If you don't want to see it then by all means don't look.

Them branches are tender my friend.
Halleluja to the Lamb of God.

Genesis 6:6 Grieved our Father to put us in flesh.....grieves me too Father. Let's do this!!

[exile]

"Do good to Zion in your good pleasure; build up the walls of Jerusalem; then you will delight in right sacrifices, in burnt offerings and whole burnt offerings; then bulls will be offered on your altar."

Psalm 51:18-19 (E.S.V.)

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[exile]

"For they conspire with one accord; against you they make a covenant-the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites, Gebal and Ammon and Amelek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Asshur also has joined them; they are the strong arm of the children of Lot."

Psalm 83:5-8 (E.S.V.)

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[Good Cheer]

Them branches are tender my friend.
Halleluja to the Lamb of God.

Genesis 6:6 Grieved our Father to put us in flesh.....grieves me too Father. Let's do this!!

In learning of the advent of the generation I was encouraged by studies of the third day, after three days, etc., to consider the relevance of the message being repetitively hammered in scriptures that were written down both before and after the earthly sojourn of Jesus of Nazareth. Hosea 6 stands out in memory as one in particular that prompted me to engage in the deeper look. Then of course the overlap between the fig tree and the third day became obvious. So now I have to admit that yeah, this is it: We've arrived.
I know it isn't nice but it gives me a bit of a chuckle to see people who like to assure themselves with their banalities, their platitudes and cliches saying such as "oh for centuries people have been reading the bible and thinking the end is come". It probably doesn't matter no way or the other but I've thought it best to call attention to the third day and to the overlap as another little arrow on the park map that says "you are here". It's just an interesting site on my long walk and if it isn't a part of someone else's path then that's OK too. I did my bit by pointing it out.

[Bowdrie]

So now I have to admit that yeah, this is it: We've arrived.

You are so right, yes, we have arrived.
Isiah 17 tells us what happens to Damascus, so does Jerimiah 49. Can you say Damascus is gone in one night.
And in Jerimiah 49:35 the "Bow" of Elam is broken.
The "Bow" are the launch facilities for the missiles, (arrows).
Elam is the SW part of present-day Iran where the launch facilities are for the missiles aimed at Israel, Israel will strike pre-emptively to take them out, (the smart money is that Iran already has some nukes).
Egypt has just started massing troops south of Rafah.
Israel is moving men/heavy weapons to the north.
A heavy offensive, (by either side,) needs to start before the fall/winter rains make off-road travel for tanks/heavy artillery too difficult for higher speed maneuver/travel.
Israel now stands alone; it has become the "heavy burden".

None of this should come as a surprise, author/speaker Bill Salus has been writing books and speaking about this for over 12 years.

Addition: This today from the "Times" in Israel: Iran's UN mission threatens "Obliterating war" if Israel launches an offensive against Hezbollah.
From the Jerusalem Post: "Israel should pre-emptively strike Hezbollah".
From the Middle East Eye: U.S. defense officials concerned that an Israeli attack on Hezbollah could drag Russia into further military co-operation with Iran.
Can you say "Hook in the Jaw" of Gog in Ezekial 38:4.

[Good Cheer]

Never have decided what I think about Salus. I do recall that I've heard him say things that made me go, "eh, no", but I know better than to think that he was for sure wrong and I was for sure right. About Israel, yeah, they're fixin' to go north. I expect we'd find the recruiting for "contractors" if we looked very hard.

[Good Cheer]

PS,
Are we about to see a modern day enactment of Daniel 7?
I can not dismiss the notion.

[exile]

"Ah, the thunder of many peoples; they thunder like the thundering of the sea! Ah, the roar of nations; they roar like the roaring of mighty waters! The nations roar like the roaring of many waters, but he will rebuke them, and they will flee far away, chased like chaff on the mountains before the wind and whirling dust before the storm. At evening time, behold, terror! Before morning, they are no more! This is the portion of those who loot us, and the lot of those who plunder us."

Isaiah 17:12-14 (E.S.V.)

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