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With regards to Trail Boss:
In that most of the powders we do get are derived from military applications, my suspicion is that the CBI surplus powder offered as recently as last year:
https://www.cdvs.us/product/cbi-pist...lbs-of-powder/
and discussed in this CB thread here:
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...-pistol-powder
was very related to Trail Boss; similar appearance, almost exactly the same burning rate, and at least approached the bulkiness of Trail Boss.
Having a rather high confidence in it being a good fit to my applications, I picked up 32 lbs of it last May ($12.44/lb) - so my Red Dot reserve is quite safe for the moment. :-/
On one of the SASS sites there has been talk of using Clay Dot as a substitute for Trail Boss, as it fills a case pretty good-- although not as good as Trail Boss. Trouble is, last I looked, Alliant is not ready to endorse it for metallic cartridge reloading, and the load data is scarce.
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For big old blackpowder military cases ,there is no alternative for TB....except blackpowder...............I have wondered if I could mix an inert filler with a denser powder ,for the same effect.........but havent tried it,as I still have 2lb of TB.
Well looks like I'll need to keep an eye out for red dot. If there's anyone in Iowa with some trail boss they don't need I'd be glad to buy it from you or trade, I've got lots of once fired brass and loaded ammo I could part with.
Last edited by Longranger44; 03-21-2024 at 02:51 PM.
My powder of choice for the 7mm-08 with reduced loads and cast boolit loads would be Accurate 5744 ... this powder is now owned by Hodgdon ...
Loading data is available at the Hodgdon Load Data Center , Accurate Arms / Western Powder Reloadin manual and Guides 6.0 and 7.0 and Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook 4th edition .
Lyman #4 indicates 5744 to be the most accurate powder with the 160 gr. cast #287641 ...and Hodgdon describes it as a fast powder and an excellant choice for reduced loads . Lots of proven data available .
If not ... there is always good old Unique . I don't have a problem loading 10 to 12 grs. Unique into a rifle case ... I just use a dipper and pay attention .
I don't consider powders like Red Dot and Unique
" a safety problem" .
Gary
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OK great info thanks! To be honest I've never experimented with these bunny fart loads before because I've used a Hammond game getter for years in my main hunting rifle. Cool little device that takes a 22lr blank and fires a swaged buckshot pellet. Works good in a bolt gun but not great in a semi I'd imagine. The other downside is it's harder to tune for accuracy having a limited number of different power blanks to choose from, as well as shooting a much lighter projectile with a lower sectional density. So I'm thinking just loading subs with a bulky powder will be a better option for the 7mm-08 and maybe some of my other rifles.
I used Red Dot and Alliant E3 for reduced loads in my 7-08. Mold is from a NOE group buy 7 mm Thor..... I don't recall the Lyman number IIRC it is a Lyman with the RN lopped off. It's about 135 to 140 gr I have both PB and GC cavities. I seemed to have misplaced my load notes at the moment I recall testing down to about 700 fps in cold weather (5 to 15 F) I think 4 to 4.5 gr of Red Dot was around 1,000 fps. 18" Rem M Seven FS.
Why not research IMR-4198. It is bulky, and usually still available
Those have same purpose and bulkiness, I tried them all and are comparable. RS14 was developed to a duplicate of TrailBoss, shape of RS14 little “T” s, TrailBoss little doughnuts, N32C, little kennels
It's not a concern with these fast powders. Take a good look at the extensive amt of low velocity data here. You can use the 30-30 or 30-06 data for your .308. I've been using the 32-20 data for my .300BLK for years.
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm
Dan Wesson 744V .44mag, S&W Mod 19-4 .357 , S&W Mod 17 K22, Stevens Favorite .22mag 30GM, ADC .45/410, CZ SP01 9mm
Tried trail boss but didn’t like it so I tried tin star=N32C and found it worked great with cast loads in my Krags and Springfields. But sadly I'm down to 2 cans. I do have red dot and clays though. Never heard of RS14.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |