These two leverguns came out of the same little shop in Backus Minnesota two years apart, The low wall 1885 is 38/40 the 1886 is 40/82 the 1886 came in on a rainy October day staining the grey patina . Both rifles are in shooting rotation on my home range - I hand load Black powder metallic cartridge with Ideal - mold loading tools - such a joy ! Both rifles have no cracks in wood , screw heads unmarked, original stock finish . The 1885 is dead on at a 100 yards - the 1886 is still in workup . I shooting my soft lead powder coated cast Boolits . People when you find old guns leave them as is , enough Turnbull guns keeping the waters muddy !