Those used to shoot really good in an old rifle that I had that’s long gone. I think it was an old Marlin bolt gun. It blew stuff up pretty good with that ammo. Had been back around 90 or so. Wish I kept it. It was a fun little gun. It didn’t shoot as good as the Ruger though. The American line is “made super economy style” imo with some cheap materials and pot metal…but boy, they sure shoot good.