Building a Hybrid Muzzleloader

[LAGS]

I use a plastic tackle box for my range box for my BP shooting.
When I use to only shoot one caliber at a time , everything just went into my possible bag.

[charlie b]

I have never had a traditional bag. Even back when I was hunting I used those water resistant speed loaders and kept them in a pants pocket. These days I weigh all my powder charges and put each into a plastic tube. Bullets are either in a tray or another tube (haven't shot round ball for many years).

And, yes, I have several ziplock bags of stuff in my range box

[Sasquatch-1]

bought one of these a while back for a muzzleloader range box. Works great!

[LAGS]

I have to have a Traditional Possibles bag.
I never bought one over the years.
But I have made several of them , and only have one left.
I like to do all the things like our forefathers did.
Just to see what they went thru to literally survive.

[LAGS]

Hay
I just realized that today I think was the first time Armoredman fired a Flintlock.
I was the one that introduced him to BP rifles.
Now he has experience in other models.
I forgot to ask him how he liked the flinter on the Hybrid.
He did shoot the same rifle with both locks , but not much to get a full opinion on which one he likes best.
This Hybrid could be used to introduce kids to BP rifles and let them fire it in both percussion or flint so they use the same rifle and can compare which type of ignition system they prefer.
That works for adults too.

[armoredman]

Answer - it was nifty. The feeling of bang to boom was different, indeed, but being that the basic feel of it is almost identical to my T/C Renegade, it felt just fine. I kinda prefer percussion, because I am a lazy American who likes to do things the easy way. And, far more weather resistant. However, having a flintlock alternative is an attractive idea.
For kids - THAT'S a great idea - we know someone who majors in that area.

[LAGS]

There is a debate about the percussion being more weather resistant.
I don't have a personal opinion on that.
But lots of guys think the flinter is better for hunting in not so perfect weather.
Like that guy shooting that flinter at the range yesterday.
I would like to help that guy you know teach kids how to do Muzzleloaders.
This Hybrid would be good for that type of exposure .

[armoredman]

That would be excellent. He may have more time available in a month or so.

[Sasquatch-1]

I have to have a Traditional Possibles bag.
I never bought one over the years.
But I have made several of them , and only have one left.
I like to do all the things like our forefathers did.
Just to see what they went thru to literally survive.

I also have several possible's bags I have made. I buy the scrap leather packs from Hobby Lobby. I do have to check every time I go because they do not always have the appropriate type of leather.

[indian joe]

[QUOTE=LAGS;5687271]There is a debate about the percussion being more weather resistant.
I don't have a personal opinion on that.
But lots of guys think the flinter is better for hunting in not so perfect weather.

I have seen those fellers say that stuff - am a keen flintlock shooter - sorry to say I dont believe em. I do better at most offhand "games" with a flintlock than with a cap or even cartridge gun simply because I built that rifle for me - it points where I am looking and it hits right where I point it - (often the lookin' and pointin' gets a tad confused tho)

Waterproof a cap gun for hunting ? just smear some boolit lube around the cap after its seated -----------------

If we talkin about wandering about the bush with the nipple open and no cap mounted (safe gun) thats a different argument - I always hunted on my own - so I carried a loaded gun - capped, trigger set, half cock.

[LAGS]

I recently looked into making another Hybrid rifle out of one of the two Lyman GPR’s that i have.
Now I have to find my old Lyman Flintlock to see how many modifications that I might have to do to make it work if it can.

[armoredman]

Nice!

[charlie b]

I recently looked into making another Hybrid rifle out of one of the two Lyman GPR’s that i have.
Now I have to find my old Lyman Flintlock to see how many modifications that I might have to do to make it work if it can.

I would be really interested in this since I have a GPH and have consider a rock lock. Seemed to be in the 'hard to do' category since mine has the patent breech plug. I'd thought about cutting the breech of the barrel and threading for a std tang and nipple drum. But, that means the wedges on the barrel need to be relocated or changed somehow. Haven't made up my mind yet.

[LAGS]

So far on the GPR , ( same situation you will have on Thompsons)
You have to change the breech plug to a flintlock style breech plug.
Then put in a Nipple drum for the use with the percussion lock.
I still have not found the Lyman Flintlock lock that I had a few years back .
But if I need too, I can order a new lock from TOW if they ever get them in stock, plus the breech plug.
Yes it will end up costing a bit more than I had planned, but I just love doing projects like this.
Right now I am working on building a Knife pistol into a .45 cal BP percussion derringer.

[LAGS]

I think I am putting the Lyman GPR conversion on hold for a while.
I can’t find a flintlock style breach plug for my barrel.
I don’t have time to try and build one myself.
I still haven’t located the Lyman lock either.
But I believe that I can modify a TC flinter lock to work in I needed to if I can’t ever find me Lyman lock.

[charlie b]

That kinda means I'd be stuck too. And mines a left hand model

Why not just chop off the back of the barrel and rethread for an available breach plug.

[LAGS]

That will move the barrel back.
Than I have to modify the stock like that custom stock I built for my previous built Hybrid
I would like it to stay as much a factory design where I can.
Oh well,
Maybe I can turn my Pedersoli Cub kit that is a flinter in to a Hybrid

[charlie b]

Yep, that's one of the issues I came up with too. I was looking at making some interesting inlays for the blank wedge holes and 'gluing' the barrel in place. Oh well. Too much other stuff to do right now anyway.

[LAGS]

The barrel pins can be moved on the barrel to match the stock holes if you shorten the barrel.
That way you don’t have to do filling and reinletting on the sides of the stock .
I have done that on some TC’s that had only one key that was dovetailed to the barrel.
But the GPR has two sets of keyways that would have to be moved.
Doing an infill on the wood is not that hard .
But it will still be noticeable .
But can be done to dress up the stock with little details.

[armoredman]

The fastest way to have LAGS find a way to do something...is tell him it can't be done.