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    I loved mine in .450 Bushmaster- traded it off when I got a bolt gun in same caliber . Got it because as mentioned above I’m not paying $450-550 for a new encore or contender barrel Wiley for two weeks of deer camp.
    My brother at the same time got the .44 scout in take down. And loves the thing . His last 3 deer fell to it . Nice light handy accurate come with a very decent scope mount . Fairly priced - Bagera barrels decent triggers . It’s a great out of the box hunting rifle and in take down ideal for the cabin motor home or boat .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    I had several rifle barrels fabricated by John Taylor for my Beretta folding shotgun.

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    About what did he charge you to do that if you don't mind posting that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    I had several rifle barrels fabricated by John Taylor for my Beretta folding shotgun.

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    I have been "collecting" for several years now a few H&R/NEF firearms which are a mixture of SB1 and SB2 receivers for the purpose of building into dedicated caliber conversions. I also have a Savage 94 receiver that could be converted as well. I am only interested in handgun cartridge conversions such as 32 S&W long, 327 Fed.Mag., 357 Mag., 9mm Luger. I would like a dedicated rifle in 32 Long with peep sights. Same goes for the 327 Fed.Mag. Furthermore, I would like to have a gun built into a take down configuration with 357 and 9mm barrels that share the same receiver with iron peep sights that I could fit into a soft case or pack for easier transport. I am sure that I could come up with a few others, but that's my short list for now.

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    I’ve slugged the 44 magnum barrel and it wants 0.432"
    I think you could thumb seat them in the fired cases.

    The only 44 mag cast we can get our hands on are 0.430"
    Wonder why it leads up and shoot a little wider than jacketed stuff.

    Only way would be to cast your own.

    Still at 100 yrds be ok for a hand full of cases.

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    I saw on another forum that someone that had a 44 and 350 legend was ablento swap barrels on frames and close each with the same clearance using feeler gauges. They did say they didn't shoot them that way but it seems that it would be very easy for CVA to offer replacement barrels for the Scout if they don't require fitting to each frame.

    Barrabruce, I have the NOE sizer that fits the Lee APP and just got a .432 bushing. Sending you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firesubie View Post
    I saw on another forum that someone that had a 44 and 350 legend was ablento swap barrels on frames and close each with the same clearance using feeler gauges. They did say they didn't shoot them that way but it seems that it would be very easy for CVA to offer replacement barrels for the Scout if they don't require fitting to each frame.
    I waited a little while before responding to this post because I couldn't quite put into words what was on my mind about how CVA has handled these guns.

    It feels like they are a corporation vs gun enthusiasts. Think about talking to someone on the gun range about guns and shooting and they have passion about their favorite guns. Then talk to a man in a suit who does not shoot but has stock in a gun manufacturing company. The suits are the ones in charge of what CVA orders from Bergara.
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    Is the pistol action the same as the rifle? I know the barrel is too short for a rifle,,I think, I have never seen one but a 357 max in a pistol would be a consideration.
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    I bought the CVA Hunter model in 44 MAG three years ago and have been very pleased with 100 yard accuracy. Typical group size with 240 grain Hornady XTP factory ammo is 2.5 inches. But at 50 yards, the bullets cluster together like a cloverleaf. I've downed 2 nice bucks with this 44 MAG that never knew what hit them. I am a huge fan of CVA products!

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    A friend and I both recently got the CVA single shot in 44 mag. both barrels slug at .431 dia. I am having a hard time finding a bullet and load that will group to my standard. Best I have found so far is a 225 gr cast with check, putting 5 rounds at 50 yards at about 1.25". Wallacem inGa

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallacem View Post
    A friend and I both recently got the CVA single shot in 44 mag. both barrels slug at .431 dia. I am having a hard time finding a bullet and load that will group to my standard. Best I have found so far is a 225 gr cast with check, putting 5 rounds at 50 yards at about 1.25". Wallacem inGa
    Try seating your bullet out touching the lands.
    No need for crimping.
    Try and fill the throat.0.432" maybe

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    Take the scope mount off and clean/degrease everything under it. Remount it with some lock-tite and torque it down. I bet you will love the difference.

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    I had a CVA hunter in 45-70 with unfinished business. I sold it to buy something I had to have and don’t regret it. I bought another just the other day just like it. It’s going to be my last and it will give me something to chew on for a long time as black powder takes a lot of playin’ around. Just a little at time and this gun is perfect for it. With a price that can’t be beat and simplicity that is easy to clean.

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    IMHO the CVA Scout is an excellent single shot break open rifle, with a killer trigger. I've had several in different chamberings but my fave is the .45-70 Gov't with blued 25" bbl.. Restocked by Boyd's and used with black powder paper patched bore rider cartridges using the 1:20 slicks I cast and wrap.



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    Have no experience with the CVA and they may be great but I’ll stick with looking for H&R Handis and T/C Contenders. Still have a soft spot for USA made guns.
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    For a USA built single shot, I have a number of Henry H015 break opens, excellent rifles.
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    I recently picked up a 44 Mag CVA Scout. Just one quick range session at 50 yards with it. Put a Burris Fast Fire II on it. It has an excellent trigger pull and ergonomics.

    Just shot a variety of my 44 Magnum loads that shoot very well in my Ruger FTBH and Colt Anaconda. As expected, magnum loads with PB cast bullets shot poorly (5" +/-) just like the do in all other rifles. Velocity out of rifles is just too much. A load of 23 gr H110 under a 240 gr Hornady XTP went into one ragged hole of 1 1/4" +/- for the 10 shots. My GC'd Lyman devastator over the same 23 gr H110 went in 1 1/2 - 1 3/4" for the 10 shots. Some Lyman 215 gr GC'd over Unique went into 2" for the 10 shots.

    Got some Lee 200 gr RFs loaded over increments of Bullseye to test looking for an easy plinker in the 800 - 1000 fps range. Going to cast up several different GC'd bullets [429415s, 429244s, 429640s and Lee C429-240-SWCs] to work up a top end magnum load that's within SAAMI MAP for use in the revolvers to.

    So far, what's not to like......
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    Results from my CVA 300BO 50 yds. 145gr cast, about 2k fps. for the GC version.
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    Whatever!

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    Henry H015-44, 22" bbl, 1:20 rifling, 4-16x44 glass, 2.2lb trigger, BP PPB bore rider cartridges = much fun.

    14 rounds total shot ...

    Load: .44Mag, 35.1 grains Swiss 3F, 299 grain 1:20 slick wrapped in 10# Fidelity paper, Accurate 42-296 mold
    Velocity Max/FPS - 1155.4
    Velocity Min/FPS - 1128.4
    Velocity Avg/FPS - 1141.9
    Kinetic Energy/FT LBS - 862
    Standard Deviation - 6.1
    Spread - 27.0
    Power Factor/KGR FPS - 342.2















    187 yards IN ...


    AND ...


    OUT ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve urquell View Post
    They have had a bunch of diff calibers over the years. .223, ..243, 308, 7mm-08 and others. Seems like when that batch runs out the order something completely different.
    Maybe they will alternate calibers offered every year like Ruger does with its No 1s. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    I recently picked up a 44 Mag CVA Scout. Just one quick range session at 50 yards with it. Put a Burris Fast Fire II on it. It has an excellent trigger pull and ergonomics.

    Just shot a variety of my 44 Magnum loads that shoot very well in my Ruger FTBH and Colt Anaconda. As expected, magnum loads with PB cast bullets shot poorly (5" +/-) just like the do in all other rifles. Velocity out of rifles is just too much. A load of 23 gr H110 under a 240 gr Hornady XTP went into one ragged hole of 1 1/4" +/- for the 10 shots. My GC'd Lyman devastator over the same 23 gr H110 went in 1 1/2 - 1 3/4" for the 10 shots. Some Lyman 215 gr GC'd over Unique went into 2" for the 10 shots.

    Got some Lee 200 gr RFs loaded over increments of Bullseye to test looking for an easy plinker in the 800 - 1000 fps range. Going to cast up several different GC'd bullets [429415s, 429244s, 429640s and Lee C429-240-SWCs] to work up a top end magnum load that's within SAAMI MAP for use in the revolvers to.

    So far, what's not to like......
    Larry, was the Lyman Devastator with the H110 shot at 100yds? What speed did you get with that load? I'll bet it lets you know it when you shoot it in a gun this light. Is it stainless or blue? I don't particularly need a take down but it looks like a bargain for a SS rifle
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