went yesterday to a LGS i go to maybe once or twice monthly. always look at the used reloading equipment, brass etc. bought a RCBS LAM original model. also came with a 225 sizer die and top punch. now to clean all the old lube out of it and refill with carnuba blue. the only thing it was missing was the wrench and top cover, the wrench from my lyman fits and i will make a new top cover. anyone want to guess the price? $26 out the door! this should be more rigid than my old lyman 45, BTW still works fine.