Yeah, it would be much better if I said, "I drive a harder hardcast truck" LOL
Yeah, it would be much better if I said, "I drive a harder hardcast truck" LOL
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Just like saying he drives a car. What kind of car?
What color is the car? What year, brand What if the cops would call in to dispatch and say "I am in pursuit of an armed subject driving a car. He just committed mayhem on a person and I need back up". The dispatcher would want as much info as possible not just that the pursued was driving a car. And that he was chasing the Bad Guy down a road. Many drive cars. It could be one of us pulled over and have the Lone Ranger throwdown put on us just because we were driving A CAR down A ROAD.
...and the mayhem was done via a harder hardcast boolit.
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Now you are catching on. I had high hopes for you.
I had a friend that went by the name Bill. Knew him for years. Thought his name was short or a nickname for William. Wrong, William wasn't his first, middle or last. I assumed. I was wrong. Just like 15 BHN is hard compared to lower BHN's but not AS HARD as higher BHN's. So "HARD" can be hard but not as "hard" as higher numbers so the lower numbers are relatively harder. Or they could be termed relatively softer since they are softer than "HARDER" or "HIGHER" BHN's numbers
This is my point exactly. If we got to locate an alloy on a chart why not use the bhn number that’s been around for years. That would tell you about as much as softest, softer, soft, sorta hard, harder, hard, hardest, and hardester. A caster needs to mix an alloy that works best for his own application and then call it whatever he wants to. JMHO
What works fine for me is clip on wheel weights + %4 tin. I have no idea where that falls on the charts but it works well in all my revolvers and a 35REM
A bumble bee is considerable faster than a John Deere tractor
Colors may be the way to go. What color would you assign for each of the 17 BHN's 5 to 22 BHN? What about the the BHN's between the two whole nbers.
How many colors would we need?
Seems to me too much work and colors. What is one ran out of a color? What shade of red would be need ETC. and so on and so forth ?
See with this post how shades can cause problems in and of themselves
You must not know the Resistor color chart, and I'm sure you didn't click on the link as it explains it all...infinite combinations are possible. But, as they say, ignorance is bliss.
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Last edited by 44MAG#1; 01-26-2023 at 06:06 PM.
It wouldn't have to be stripes. The PC boys are pretty creative, they'll hash that out in no time.
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Lots of ideas. Most in this thread are solid color, but some are multi-color.
Hint: start at the end of thread and scroll backward.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...cs-only/page40
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Last edited by 44MAG#1; 01-26-2023 at 08:44 PM.
But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed.
Lead is 11.34 grams per cubic centimeter.
Last edited by 44MAG#1; 01-28-2023 at 09:45 PM.
Your thread and sig line read as if you put a lot of value in doing things by the book and that you like to argue. 15 bhn like Lyman No2 is hard. Whether you measure pure lead at bhn 5 or 7 makes absolutely no difference in how we as boolit casters cast or alloy with it.
Willie
Last edited by Willie T; 01-29-2023 at 08:47 AM.
You have missed the point entirely. Let me explain this. "HARD" is a relative term meaning it is relative to what. Many, many called 15 BHN "HARD" So if 15 BHN is hard what is 22 BHN? 10 BHN compared to softer such as 8 BHN. Is "HARD" but it is not "HARD" compared to 15 BHN. 17 BHN is "HARD" compared to 15 BHN but it isn't as hard as 22 BHN.
"HARD", how hard? Is it REALLY "HARD" or relatively "HARD"
ME going by the book???? I am probably one of the least likely to go by the book.
My signature line came about a thread where I was told mass cannot be weighed by a member that tried their best to correct me using mass in an equation
That member doesn't post anymore as far as I know. So the first line of my sig block was what I was told. Not what I AM SAYING.
With all due respect, you do not need to explain anything about bullet hardness or prove anything to me. I am well versed in useful casting alloys and shooting them. Your point was fully understood. Many very skilled casters use nothing more than alloy composition, a thumbnail test, and shooting results rather than getting knotted up arguing about bhn. Alloy composition and how boolits are cooled is far more useful for a caster than how he measures the hardness of his boolits. Is the juice worth the squeeze is my point.
Willie
I didn't read the whole thread, but to OPs original question, I think you basically answered it yourself. BHN is a measurement and is relative.
You're asking if 5 is bigger than 1, yes. Or if 4,578 is smaller than 13,239. Yes again.
Is 5 a big number, it depends. Compared to 0.001, yes it is. But not when compared to 4,713. So in order to determine the significance of a number or hardness, you need to apply a context and intent.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |