I noticed the same difference in the sound of some reloads. Turned out, I had a mixed batch of brass, and the crimp was different, due to slight differences in case length.
I noticed the same difference in the sound of some reloads. Turned out, I had a mixed batch of brass, and the crimp was different, due to slight differences in case length.
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Vectan BA 10 is very close to Bullseye on the burn rate chart so I might try that. Choice of powder isn’t a luxury we enjoy here. Vectan and Lovex are prominent so everything has to be compared on the burn rate chart. I’ve never given much thought to mixed brass but I can give that some attention also.
Last edited by nagantino; 12-06-2022 at 01:32 PM.
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Another trick several shooters have tried on reduced loads that seem to make a difference, at least in rifle rounds, is use of a filler such as cream of wheat which helps to take up some of the case volume and level out pressures. I'm not experience with this, and wouldn't recommend it until you've read up on some of those posts. But if you're dead set on some mouse fart loads, it might be something to look into.
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Most powders are made to work in or at a certain pressure level, under pressure they may not burn clean or hang fire. Over pressure may cause large spikes.
With limited powder choices, my suggestion is to use a powder that is also used in light 12 ga loads. These powders are typically good for light .38 loads.
An email or call to the powder manufacturer may be worthwhile too.
The only Lovex powder I have is Clean Shot. It is sold by Shooter World but IIRC it is a Lovex product. Lovex product D032-03. I believe it would be a good choice. I have found it meters very well and will be loading it in .38 Spl and 9mm.
BTW 3.0 gr of Clean Shot with a 125 gr bullet will give about 675-700 fps. This for .38 spl cases.
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when I was playing with subsonics in the 7.62x39mm with 151grn cast boolits (so not altogether hugely different senario) I kept dropping charge weight of trail boss till the supersonic crack dissapeared,easy enough with suppressor BUT whereas other guys were using 5-6-7-8 grns of powder to achieve the quieter loads,I got down to 3 grns....because I was still using my magnum primers,as soon as I changed back to std primers the crack level,for want of better term went back up to 6 grns of powder...so in smaller case the magnum primer MUST be worth a couple of grains of powder....
do agree 100% the OP needs to up his powder weight.
So I thought I would recap on the Audible Difference …problem. After reading advice here I bought some BA 10 (Vectan) and began reloading the .38 special again. BA10 is an equivalent of Bullseye which is not available here. I didn’t sort My brass to just one manufacturer but loaded 3 grains of BA10 and another test lot of 2.5 grains of BA10 with a 125 gr bullet from MP Molds. At the range today both lots of rounds performed without the audible difference problem. I could notice very little difference in recoil and muzzle flip was negligible so that was good. They both shot low but that was easily adjusted.
I guess the faster burning powder was the answer. Many thanks for the advice.
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I like post#5. One of my guns likes 3.2 With American Select and a 148 H&G 148 bnwc. I bench shoot every week weather permitting. I can send you a few to try if you pay postage. This is a 25 yard bench target. This is not my gun but they are my cast boolits. This boolit works with lots of powders.
Last edited by 45DUDE; 12-21-2022 at 01:19 PM.
Dude..I thank you for the offer of “rounds to try in the post” but I live in Ireland and such a package would result in even more problems than Audible difference. But many thanks. I’m happy with todays results though. The 148 bullet is the accepted choice but I don’t want another mold …..the 125 cast I have will do nicely.
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |