How about contacting Ruger about just sending them the cylinder? Why should someone pay someone else to correct this?
How about contacting Ruger about just sending them the cylinder? Why should someone pay someone else to correct this?
Ruger will NOT address issues like cylinder throat sizes, they won't even fix a cylinder that has undersized chambers in it that were reamed with a worn out reamer.
Neither will they accept any gun parts, you have to jump through the hoops and send them the whole firearm, via common carrier, they will shoot factory ammo through it, if it groups for them, they send it back without doing anything to it and may charge you for shipping being there was nothing wrong with the gun.
My parkinsonism that controls walking and balance has made me unable to work in the shop. VOTE RED * PRAY OFTEN You are welcome to message me here or send email to xlordsguitars@gmail.com.
Never once had a gun sent in come back, correct Sometimes they were worse than when they were sent in
Up your load
I Am Descended From Men Who Would Not Be Ruled
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum
There is enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world
Ronald Reagan.
I shoot 7.5gr win231/HP38 with a 250gr.
solid ROLL crimp
813fps
.
NRA LIFE Member
USPSA/IPSC
Things to try at the loading bench are:
1.) Increase the charge weight slightly (data allowing).
2.) Switch to a heavier projectile (230 gr. LRN or 250 gr. RNFP), keeping charge weights as is.
3.) Increase the amount of crimp you use. I find that turning the seating die 1/8 to 1/4 turn can make a difference.
Though you MAY find that you use all three measures, DO NOT attempt them all at one time. Employ each measure separately, while checking for pressure signs. I doubt that the three measures, combined at once, would cause any seriously high pressures, but let's not test the notion.
I recall 7.1/W231/250 gr. RNFP being pretty "middlin", in terms of performance, pretty close to factory. With lighter projectiles, charge weights under that may not generate sufficient pressure to seal the brass to the chamber.
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool become servant to the wise of heart. Proverbs 11:29
...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40
Carpe SCOTCH!
Couple guys have the easiest solution-
Neck size!! Don’t fart with anything else except throats. Then if neck size doesn’t help go up with load. You are in such low pressure with that load that even annealed brass may not seal. If you want poopy loads go with Trail boss. Other wise add powder and get it working in the right pressure range.
Hope ya get it working. Soot isn’t the worst thing but is messy after awhile. Let us know if you get it fixed.
Unique is sooty in my Uberti when the charge is under 8.0 grains with a 255 grain SWC.
Got the Cylinder back from Doug.
Looks perfect, the Boolits snugly drop right through now.
Hopefully I will get to shoot it this week.
Failure is not an Option
I know this is a pistol thread but in my 16" Marlin 1894 45 Colt, at low pressure the cases are very sooty and black. Cases also are slightly bulged which is because as I understand it the chambers on these Marlins tend to run oversize. As I increase the pressure the soot goes away but the bulge remains. Just have to fully resize all cases when shot through this gun. Full house Ruger pressure loads are a real handful in this little carbine!!! But it does shoot well.
About 50/50. I had a new barrel and cylinder put on a .45 Vaquero that I had purchased used. Good job all around.
Sent in a .45 Blackhawk, which had a visibly bad barrel. The new barrel had the forcing cone off center, and the entire pistol was over buffed (with a sanding wheel?). I had carefully blended all the fit parts and removed the “sanded” look with steel wool, etc. before I sent it in. I still have it and will rebarrel it myself.
It’s really a crap shoot.
Got out to shoot it.
SOooooo much better.
Groups are 1/3 the size they were and actually groups now.
No leading, still.more soot than I like but much cleaner than before.
Failure is not an Option
Outstanding! I read where you ordered some new Starline brass. A friend of mine did that and notice his first sizing using more force than used brass. Starline boasts its 45 LC brass will stand high pressures, like 44 mag pressure, most of us don’t need that. I have very little Starline brass in 45 colt, mostly W-W and R-P.
My suggestion if it’s new brass and dropping into the chamber as is, just flare, seat and crimp. Again, when I was loading just for 1 45 colt, I only sized a little over 1/3 the way with modern dies and that ammo all went back into the same gun.
I get more soot on cases when using Starline than I do using Winchester brass or Federal in 45 Colt Also more split case mouths with Starline than Winchester or Federal brass especially in .357.
It's an "Old wives tale" about 45 Colt brass being "weak" and not holding up. The brass wasn't/isn't the problem. Unless the brass has been reloaded over and over again and lost its elasticity, and IS wore out, there shouldn't be any problems. It was/is the oversize chambers that causes the split cases. Chambers so oversize, that when fired stretched the cases beyond the limits of the brass. I load for my Uberti 45 Colt "Evil Roy" and Winchester Trapper carbine. Fortunately I can partial size my brass to hold the boolit, and the cartridges will fit in either chamber. My standard load is 9 grains of Herco under a 255 - 265 grain boolit. Doesn't seem to overly soot the cases. Burns real clean and bright shiny bores.
If a 41 won't stop it, I wouldn't bet my life on a 44.
That's about the minimum "non-sooty" load in most .45 Colts I've shot.
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool become servant to the wise of heart. Proverbs 11:29
...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40
Carpe SCOTCH!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool become servant to the wise of heart. Proverbs 11:29
...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40
Carpe SCOTCH!
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |