does it mean BELTED ...RIMMED ....BOTH?
run across this word with many Holland & Holland cartridges (some others)
thanks!
does it mean BELTED ...RIMMED ....BOTH?
run across this word with many Holland & Holland cartridges (some others)
thanks!
It means rimmed .....I believe H&H were one of the main users of the terminology ,because their double guns could use the high powered rounds of the day ,like 7x57 Mauser with a rim.
What john.k. said.
It's more of a British term, especially used when similarly named cartridges have a rimless version as well.
Think 375 H&H Magnum and 375 Flanged Nitro Express (designed for break action rifles and a completely different class of cartridge).
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British: Flanged = Rimmed
Continental: Rimmed = Rimmed
US: Rimmed = Rimmed
Everywhere: Belted = Belted as in a rimless case with a belt above the extractor groove, used for headspace purposes.
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While Cartridges of the World is a fascinating book to own; several times mistakes have been pointed out to me.
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i have the 16th of Cartridges of the world .....and have worn it out (and yes, a huge number of mistakes!)
also have Ammo Encyclopedia ..........several mistakes in it as well.
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I dabble in collecting cartridges and boxes - but for those on this forum who are serious about the hobby, what sources do you rely on the most?
I think that Ray Giles has an excellent book on cartridge boxes and their evolution, but don't have much in the way of cartridge references.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |