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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    That has not been updated in a long time.
    Any additional information available from anyone on these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Any additional information available from anyone on these?
    No. I put it out there to be updated. No one else contributed.

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    Fastener Chart updated, V2:

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    Fastener Application Chart
    Brass Chute M2x8 N/A M2 4
    Brass Chute Adjuster M3-25 M3 N/A 1
    Clutch Hub 6x32x1/2" Pan Head 6-32 6-32 2
    Clutch Hub, Alternate 6x32x1" Pan Head 6-32 6-32 2 & 4 Nuts
    Clutch Hubs configurtion can be done is several ways with different handles/covers/hubs change fastener lengths as required.
    Dillon Mount 3/8"x1" 3/8" Nylock N/A 1
    Drop Hole Adapter M2-8 N/A M8 4
    Flipper M3-16 N/A M3 1
    Flipper Spring Retainer M3-8 N/A N/A 1
    Item Fastener Nut Washer Count
    Latch Mount M3-8 N/A M3 1
    Motor, 634JS M4-10 N/A N/A 4
    Motor, ETGZMP38 N/A 10-32, Flanged 4
    Motor, FC555 M4-10 N/A N/A 4
    Motor, JGY370 6-32 x1/2" Pan Head N/A N/A 4
    Post Mount 3/8"x2" Bolt 3/8" Nut 3/8" 1
    Post Mount Angle Adjuster Screw 1/4"-20 1/4"-20 N/A 1
    Ramp M3-16 N/A M3 1
    Square Post Angle Clamp 3/8"x2" Bolt 3/8" 3/8" 1
    Square Post Angle Clamp Adjuster 1/4"-20x21/2" 1/4"-20 1/4" 1
    Switch Board M3-20 M3 M3 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbbh View Post
    Fastener Chart updated, V2:

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    Fastener Application Chart
    Brass Chute M2x8 N/A M2 4
    Brass Chute Adjuster M3-25 M3 N/A 1
    Clutch Hub 6x32x1/2" Pan Head 6-32 6-32 2
    Clutch Hub, Alternate 6x32x1" Pan Head 6-32 6-32 2 & 4 Nuts
    Clutch Hubs configurtion can be done is several ways with different handles/covers/hubs change fastener lengths as required.
    Dillon Mount 3/8"x1" 3/8" Nylock N/A 1
    Drop Hole Adapter M2-8 N/A M8 4
    Flipper M3-16 N/A M3 1
    Flipper Spring Retainer M3-8 N/A N/A 1
    Item Fastener Nut Washer Count
    Latch Mount M3-8 N/A M3 1
    Motor, 634JS M4-10 N/A N/A 4
    Motor, ETGZMP38 N/A 10-32, Flanged 4
    Motor, FC555 M4-10 N/A N/A 4
    Motor, JGY370 6-32 x1/2" Pan Head N/A N/A 4
    Post Mount 3/8"x2" Bolt 3/8" Nut 3/8" 1
    Post Mount Angle Adjuster Screw 1/4"-20 1/4"-20 N/A 1
    Ramp M3-16 N/A M3 1
    Square Post Angle Clamp 3/8"x2" Bolt 3/8" 3/8" 1
    Square Post Angle Clamp Adjuster 1/4"-20x21/2" 1/4"-20 1/4" 1
    Switch Board M3-20 M3 M3 4
    My JGY370 motor uses M3-8 bolt not 6-32

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    That is very cool. Honestly I would not even bother listing the jgy370 or the FC555 motors. I removed them as recommended motors from the manual. The 634JS motor is the way to go. I used m4x10mm for that motor.
    What is it that you like about the 634js over the Dayton?
    I’ve been running the 12v 12RPM Dayton for about 16 months now.
    Absolutely no complaints.
    I am about to order 2 more for my 2 just right I’m about to start printing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    That is very cool. Honestly I would not even bother listing the jgy370 or the FC555 motors. I removed them as recommended motors from the manual. The 634JS motor is the way to go. I used m4x10mm for that motor.
    Where can you get a 634JS motor...searched came up with nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Where can you get a 634JS motor...searched came up with nothing...
    Aliexpress has them as 634JSX
    They are 1/2 the price of the Dayton

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBarachetta View Post
    That's what I am after. I have a 12" length of 1" square aluminum tube that looks like yours. I don't recall seeing that square base for the tube anywhere. Is that your own? Also, will 12" length be enough?
    I have to dig through my files but I printed up a square 1x1 last year.
    I’ll check when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBarachetta View Post
    That's what I am after. I have a 12" length of 1" square aluminum tube that looks like yours. I don't recall seeing that square base for the tube anywhere. Is that your own? Also, will 12" length be enough?
    I use a 30mm square tube. Hight is about 400mm.
    Bench mount is my own. Can share it if someone find it useful, no problemo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    Where can you get a 634JS motor...searched came up with nothing...
    There is a link to it in the manual.

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    I just thought that the 24kg/cm torque on the 6rpm JGY370 motor was more then good enough for the original size set up. It's not like I am going to throw in 400 45acp bullets to collate... and it may not be fast but I feel that for my needs it is going to be great! Not to mention saving a few bucks on buying one. Living on social Security has a limiting effect on how much mad money I have access to. lol

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    I used the JGY370 motor on my first print of AmmoMike's base back when TylerR was just getting going with his bigger, regular model. Still works fine and I use it for my APP feeder to feed pistol bullets. I will say that when bullets hung up, the motor just stopped, not being powerful enough to rip out plates. People who pioneered the more powerful motors suffered some breakage due to their power, which prompted TylorR to develop his awesome clutch system...

    I would say for TylerR's normal sized collator it will work, and the clutch system will surely make it last longer than it would without it. I know I raced to turn the power off when the motor stopped due to a blockage.....not for fear of ripping plastic, but for fear of a burned out motor. With the clutch, probably not much to worry about even on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    I used the JGY370 motor on my first print of AmmoMike's base back when TylerR was just getting going with his bigger, regular model. Still works fine and I use it for my APP feeder to feed pistol bullets. I will say that when bullets hung up, the motor just stopped, not being powerful enough to rip out plates. People who pioneered the more powerful motors suffered some breakage due to their power, which prompted TylorR to develop his awesome clutch system...

    I would say for TylerR's normal sized collator it will work, and the clutch system will surely make it last longer than it would without it. I know I raced to turn the power off when the motor stopped due to a blockage.....not for fear of ripping plastic, but for fear of a burned out motor. With the clutch, probably not much to worry about even on that.
    Yep, using the clutch! Could not think of a single reason not to use it.

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    For the APP bracket main what size bolt is needed?? 1/4-20x3.5???
    The stock lee bolt is too short and it is 2.75 inches long
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    For the APP bracket main what size bolt is needed?? 1/4-20x3.5???
    The stock lee bolt is too short and it is 2.75 inches long
    thanks
    I use a 3-3/4" long bolt.....a nut to tighten it to the bracket main, then a coupling nut "specialized" to tighten it to the APP frame. Although in the video I turn the coupling nut on a lot.....the Lee frame takes way more thickness.....don't think 3.5" is quite enough.

    Specialized just means a cheap wing nut and a short bolt on the "other" end of the coupling nut.......this way I can remove the bracket easy peasy, without having to get on my knees and get a wrench up under there.

    Here's a little video to demo the concept:



    And here's the easy peasy part.....even with the camera in the way:

    Last edited by GWS; 04-09-2022 at 08:59 PM.

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    Great idea!!!!!!!!!!
    How long is that coupling nut?

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    That one was probably 1.5 inches. But 2 inch ones work fine too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    No. I put it out there to be updated. No one else contributed.
    I have tried to add some info, but it seems like i don´t have the rights to edit the sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azlester View Post
    For the APP bracket main what size bolt is needed?? 1/4-20x3.5???
    The stock lee bolt is too short and it is 2.75 inches long
    thanks
    It is designed to use the stock bolt. I just set one up a few weeks ago with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acp View Post
    I have tried to add some info, but it seems like i don´t have the rights to edit the sheet.
    Try this link:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/751mu...j5ped0qz550c4h

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