i finally i scored a doe with a 45-70 reload. my cast .459 400gr soft lead powder coated rnfp, 15 grs of unique,wlr primers. dont know the fps. not far 30yds. mid chest pass thru. 3" holes in both lungs. missed the heart. she ran maybe 40yds. no meat loss ive hunted past 15 years with a flintlock and have done pretty good. but i wanted to see what this would do on game. and it worked well. irishtoo