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ran across pictures of these and wondered what kind of machine is used to make them
walt
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ran across pictures of these and wondered what kind of machine is used to make them
walt
Last edited by Walter Laich; 10-23-2021 at 06:48 AM.
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You are going to have to be more specific. Are you talking about the taper at the end of the shell? Are you talking about crimping brass shells? The only domed crimps I've produced have been from too much in a hull, and it's not a good thing.
That is not what I would call a good crimp. And if it was not for the fact that it appears the center is melted together. They would not stay together.
As to how to make them, I'll take a WAG and say a very expensive machine.
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Probably, some kind of heated six point crimping die. Apply crimp, heated plastic flows into cavity at top,, cools to solidify, done!
After reading my reply, it’s obvious I stated the obvious! ( sorry, guys) So, after a bunch of shot shells I’ve reloaded, this type of crimp is going to be hard to replicate! Add the fact that this crimp is a “ one and done type of crimp” and you have a one use shotshell. Not going to reload this one, I’m afraid.
Walker, is that a factory load or a display or ?????
Last edited by Budzilla 19; 10-21-2021 at 08:51 AM.
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Folks were using them to speed up reloads, especially with SxS shotguns, in SASS competition in Oklahoma.
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/ME...tinfo/130634P/
And or. https://www.ballisticproducts.com/ME...info/1308462S/
Last edited by 243winxb; 10-21-2021 at 09:52 AM.
what I vaguely remember is a machine from somewhere in Europe that heated the top of the shell then pressed it into the dome cavity. you then would take a soldering iron a finish off the very top.
I saw one advertised somewhere and am writing an article about it for our SASS club. Wanted to give as much info as I can but thinking may have to leave out anything about the machine that does this
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First time I've ever seen that. The links seem to be aimed at paper hulls. It would make faster, smoother insertion of a shell into a break open action, guided in by the point. It would also present the problem of creating proper, safe loads, as some of the hull's capacity is lost in the curved portion and the powder, wad, and shot column would need to be correspondingly shorter. I also have to wonder if the fired hulls could be reloaded again, some plastic perhaps being lost in the center plug of the first loading. Very interesting, but probably not something I would pursue.
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Actually, this kind of crimp will increase the capacity of the shell, compared to a normal star-crimp. I would not be surprised if the idea find its way into hunting loads over here, at least when steel shot is involved.
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I suspect they are some kind of military specialty load.
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That brings up a question. Are there any dies that can put a crimp on a cartridge like a .44mag with snake shot in it. Something like .22 bird shot shells.
I would think those are designed specifically for faster loading in break action shotguns, or maybe there is a domed slug under the crimp. In any event it almost has to be done with heat.
I think they look pretty well done. definitely something we've never seen.
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Some SASS shooters back in the day would reload 12 ga then run a 16ga crimp to put the tapper on the front end. It would put a small dome from the tapper. QuikLoader By Roger Siminoff (SASS alias "Roger Rapid") sold by Uniquetec is used to put a 3 degree tapper on 12 ga and is legal in SASS now. Would like to know head stamping on those rounds.
not sure if I understand your comments but the QuikLoader is used after the shot shell is completely reloaded. Idea is to remove the first sizing die on the MEC press and put the QuikLoader in its place. then run the completed reloads through it to get the 3° taper.
I have one on order and will be seeing if my blazing 65 sec SASS times drop into the 63 sec range
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My first thought was some sort of ultrasonic weld, not unlike what we use in the food and beverage industries to crimp and seal containers. But that might be a pretty expensive setup for the average reloader.
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That’s from the OMV reloader designed for shot only.
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