ARs can shoot 7.62x39 as well. I haven't seen a 30 carbine upper for an AR but at least one probably exists.
ARs can shoot 7.62x39 as well. I haven't seen a 30 carbine upper for an AR but at least one probably exists.
The grendel is nice for longer shots due to better BC of the longer bullets. Cast probably wont give the same performance. That is one advantage of the BO or even the 308, so many options of load. AR10 is much heavier than AR15 and gas guns restrict you load somewhat, not a major problem. 30 hamr is equl to x39. Figure the BO is like 30/30 for range, grendel is like 308W.
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no pigs but ive taken deer cleanly out to 200 yards with the bo using 110 barnes x bullets and out to 350 with the grendel shooting 100 ballistic tips. Going to give the hamr a work out in a couple months. Should be a killer. I get an easy 300 fps more with the same weight bullets in the bo. Probably would along with the 762x39 be as good as it gets in an ar15 on pigs out at 200 yards.
I would love to take my Grendel hog hunting.
30 carbine - 110gr @ 2k fps - easy for the BO with 40% heavier bullet.
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yup my blackout will do 2200 with a 110. 130s to 2000 easily. All with bullets that have MUCH better bc then the typical 30 carbine bullet. No comparison. Personaly i think youd be better armed with a 556 shooting barnes x bullets, partitions or a even a bonded bullet. That and back when i played with them i never saw a book level reload for the carbine do 1900 fps. Most were lucky to do 1800 out of a carbine. Not saying it wont kill a hog but its not on the same level as the rounds being discussed here.
223/556 is probably the most common in this area. Most folks I know keep the meat so hogs in the 100-150 pound range are preferred. Smaller is better, but much bigger and you're stuck burying or burning the carcasses. I hope to have access to some hog hunting land this year and I'd probably go with 223 since shots will be less than 100 yds. If I was shooting 300 yds I'd choose differently.
I have killed hogs with several different cartridges and as said in a previous post a .22lr will kill them stone dead, if everything is perfect. It's when everything is not perfect that things can get dicey pretty quick. A few years ago I was getting ready for a safari so I was hunting everything with my .375 H&H, late one evening a large (300 # +/-) boar walked into the field I was watching, I put the crosshairs high on his shoulder and touched off a 270 grain softpoint, the hog dropped in his tracks, I scanned the field for more hogs and as I came back around the boar was getting up with both front legs under him. I shot again and put the boar down for good with the second one but it took 2 good hits from that .375 to keep him planted. If I'm sitting watching a bait pile then a suppressed AR chambered in .277 Wolverine is my gun of choice. If I am walking around looking for hogs or if we are doing drives then I take something bigger, one of my mediums gets to go, either the afore mentioned .375 H&H or my 9,3x62 or .350 Remington magnum. IMHO bigger is better for hogs!
Hey Rapier, I'm also NW Fl in Santa Rosa County. Doing hog control for several farmers and ranchers. I use a suppressed Ruger SR556 Takedown in 300 Blackout with handloaded Barnes 110gr blacktips and a FLIR thermal. Killed my 55th hog a few nights ago. Here she is:
Here's #52: The hole in the neck and then the bullet broke a leg were from a finishing off shot through the head. The sows grow big from all the peanut crops they eat.
Some Arkansas hogs are! I had a sow about 150# that took a shoulder shot and 2 head shots from a 300blk sub (240gr cast) to knock her out.
Went back to get the ATV and when I got back she was up for more. took 6 more shots to the head with a 45 to put her out for good. Dang glad she was in a trap and not charging!
For quiet, hard to beat a 300blk with subs. You can do supers in 300BO as well 125grbullet at 2300FPS is quite effective.
I have built 2 AR's specifically for hogs One in 300BLK with night vision and a 458 socom. At about 100yds with subs and a suppressor, you can pick off hogs well with a 300blk. The ones I have shot that weren't aware dropped, and didn't squeal until I got up to them. The others just ran a little way and came back.
Haven't shot one with 458socom yet (only gun I didn't lose in the boating accident ) but I have a pretty stout load of 300gr cast @ 2030fps that puts it firmly in 45-70 range in a light 10shot semi auto. should anchor about anything pretty well. Just have to do some accuracy testing on it, but low variation and no pressure signs are promising. My 405's have been all over the place and the 500 subs are a work in progress
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My 260 Rem & Barnes 120gr TSX/TTSX have been taking elk every season for years. Complete penetration thru both shoulders. Should handle pigs. The 260 Rem is available in an AR style rifle.
G.S. got a 200# sow last weekend with 223, don't know the details but it worked fine.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |