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    Tyler, I was having trouble keeping the mount stationary without cranking down on the bolt and when I bumped it, it sometimes slid down. I remixed your mount to remedy this and now you only have to finger tighten the nut OR just use a wing nut. I remixed in Tinkercad but would love a better copy in DesignSpark Or 360 but my knowledge is limited to creating boxes like in tinkercad. Love the what your doing and thank you so much!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SoggyCashew View Post
    Tyler, I was having trouble keeping the mount stationary without cranking down on the bolt and when I bumped it, it sometimes slid down. I remixed your mount to remedy this and now you only have to finger tighten the nut OR just use a wing nut. I remixed in Tinkercad but would love a better copy in DesignSpark Or 360 but my knowledge is limited to creating boxes like in tinkercad. Love the what your doing and thank you so much!
    Thanks man. I like your remix. I actually recently implemented my own solution to the issue you mentioned. Its just a thumb screw to adjust the angle.
    Personally I like just keeping it friction fit, because I can adjust the angle so quickly.

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    New version has been posted. v1.4.6

    - New manual v3.0 to account for recent changes.
    - New parts generator.
    - All feed die threads have been reduced just slightly.
    - #11 plate have been moved inwards to reduce amount of ridge to work better on flat nose boolits.
    - Some changes here and there to the collator plates.
    - Inclusion of all Mongo collator parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    New version has been posted. v1.4.6

    - New manual v3.0 to account for recent changes.
    - New parts generator.
    - All feed die threads have been reduced just slightly.
    - #11 plate have been moved inwards to reduce amount of ridge to work better on flat nose boolits.
    - Some changes here and there to the collator plates.
    - Inclusion of all Mongo collator parts.
    Printing new #11 now! keep you posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anuccite View Post
    Printing new #11 now! keep you posted
    Excellent. I didn't move it a ton, but it should make a difference. Also make sure there is no crows foot on the bottom back of the plate so it slides in all the way.

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    Connector for Collator Plates - Motor ETZGMP38

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ID:	282011I need some help connecting my bullet/case collator plates to my ETZGMP38 motor shaft. Does anyone have an STL or advice on how to do that? I have printed out the feeder and plates from bf_v1 and there isn't much room in the hole on the collator plates to put a connector. What is the solution?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAreloader View Post
    I need some help connecting my bullet/case collator plates to my ETZGMP38 motor shaft. Does anyone have an STL or advice on how to do that? I have printed out the feeder and plates from bf_v1 and there isn't much room in the hole on the collator plates to put a connector. What is the solution?

    Thanks in advance!

    LAreloader
    Those plates are for a pinned motor shaft, and are pre-clutch. You can either pin your motor shaft. Or reprint the plates with the new clutch system and go with the hex adapter.

    Edited to add: You probably want to download the latest files. A lot has changed since v1.
    Last edited by TylerR; 04-27-2021 at 01:48 PM.

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    Making that Bullet Collator

    Quote Originally Posted by LAreloader View Post
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    Thanks in advance!

    LAreloader
    I couldn’t get a hole drilled through my motor for the original AmmoMike feeder, so I drilled out the holes on my plates to fit a round brass coupler and put a roll pin in the top of the coupler. Not my idea, it is much earlier on in the thread. If you need the coupler info PM me and I will check my purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r4ndy View Post
    I couldn’t get a hole drilled through my motor for the original AmmoMike feeder, so I drilled out the holes on my plates to fit a round brass coupler and put a roll pin in the top of the coupler. Not my idea, it is much earlier on in the thread. If you need the coupler info PM me and I will check my purchases.
    The motor shaft is in theory heat treated. Assuming its a decent quality motor. I have had issues drilling the hole myself. I got around it by heating it up and letting it cool slowly to remove some of the metal hardness. Of course in order to do that, I took the motor apart and removed the shaft so the heat didn't transfer to the motor parts. But if you apply just the right amount of heat to make it a little softer disassembly is probably not necessary.

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    I finally got my Prusa printer fixed (motherboard died) and now I'm off to printing new collator plates with clutches. Thanks TylerR as always for the hard work and also a huge shoutout to o416 for making such an awesome manual with all the latest changes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noacess View Post
    I finally got my Prusa printer fixed (motherboard died) and now I'm off to printing new collator plates with clutches. Thanks TylerR as always for the hard work and also a huge shoutout to o416 for making such an awesome manual with all the latest changes!
    My pleasure brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noacess View Post
    I finally got my Prusa printer fixed (motherboard died) and now I'm off to printing new collator plates with clutches. Thanks TylerR as always for the hard work and also a huge shoutout to o416 for making such an awesome manual with all the latest changes!
    Good to hear you are back up and running. Be sure to download the latest, as I made a few minor tweaks just tonight.

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    I started the project by printing the bullet drop die as a debug for the printer & slicer settings. They came out fine with the exception of the ball bearing pockets which are just a tiny bit misshapen, what is the best way to clean them up? I have a BNEM that size and I’ve also thought about using a ball and soldering iron to heat it & ‘iron’ out the hole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CS223 View Post
    I started the project by printing the bullet drop die as a debug for the printer & slicer settings. They came out fine with the exception of the ball bearing pockets which are just a tiny bit misshapen, what is the best way to clean them up? I have a BNEM that size and I’ve also thought about using a ball and soldering iron to heat it & ‘iron’ out the hole.
    Do the bearings not fit in the hole then? They are pretty exact tolerances on those holes so the bearing fits in, but does not slide all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Do the bearings not fit in the hole then? They are pretty exact tolerances on those holes so the bearing fits in, but does not slide all the way through.
    I understand how it works & that the holes are hemispherical, the printed holes have a little bit of error where the filament bridges the top of the hemisphere even at a .12 layer hgt spec’d in the instructions. It’s probably my fault for checking fit with 5/32 balls that I had on hand instead the of 3.5mm specified.

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    A couple of pics might help.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS223 View Post
    A couple of pics might help.Click image for larger version. 

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    Those look a little rough. What nozzle size are you using.

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    Making that Bullet Collator

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Those look a little rough. What nozzle size are you using.
    0.4mm E3D nozzle, 0.12 layer height, 0.44 extrusion width, 15% infill, 3 perimeters maybe I should slow the print speed down and give it more time to cool. Overall it looks pretty good and the parts fit.


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    Which bullet nose down slide plate for this .44 Lee bullet?Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrower View Post
    Which bullet nose down slide plate for this .44 Lee bullet?Click image for larger version. 

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    Can't say for sure, but #7 might me a good place to start.

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