I have two 44 magnum Super 14 barrels. They are both tackdrivers and I would like to put a muzzle extension on one of them to make it legal to use as a carbine. What is the best way to go about this and who should I get to do it?
I have two 44 magnum Super 14 barrels. They are both tackdrivers and I would like to put a muzzle extension on one of them to make it legal to use as a carbine. What is the best way to go about this and who should I get to do it?
For what the conversion will cost you to be done on the existing barrel you could probably buy an mgm or other barrel in the length desired with riling all the way down it.
By the time a smith turns the muzzle threads it makes the extension fits it and solders or permanently attaches it then finishes it your going to have a chunk of change in it with the only gain being the added length. The existing barrel could possibly be stubbed with a barrel blank to desired length but again a lot of cost for something available.
If you sell one of the super 14 barrels you would have the biggest share of the MGM barrel there already
I could have a brake installed, surely there are many out there 2 inches long.
Mike Bellm is a TC single shot specialist.
https://www.bellmtcs.com/blog/muzzle...to-the-barrel/
I've been thinking of doing the same thing, but the cheap way. Now, this wouldn't be the best looking thing, and would need to be refinished, but ATF says an extension needs to be pinned and welded to be legal. I have a lathe, and a friend is a welder. We have discussed doing this by turning a tube down to be a slip fit over the muzzle with a slit for the front sight to fit into. Now that I think of it, if you're not using irons, you could skip the slit for the front sight and use one of the front sight holes for your pin to fit into. Then drill a hole in the side of the tube and very slightly into the barrel for a piece of nail or other pin to fit, and have him weld the pin in place and do a couple tack welds at the rear of the extension to lock it to the barrel, just to keep the ATF off my butt. I'm sure you could cold blue this and make it look decent, if not good, but the tube I'm talking about would add a section at the muzzle that is necessarily a slightly larger diameter that the barrel was. When I priced this, since the labor would be done by us, we figured our out of pocket cost would be no more than $10, and probably closer to $5.
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I solved my problem by getting a $200 SBR tax stamp, now all of my contender barrels are legal carbine barrels...
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A gunsmith on this forum, Assassin, does the job for $200. He has a sterling reputation. I don't think you can buy a really good Contender barrel for less than twice that. My favorites are Bullberry, which run about $450.
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if you are willing to do the slip over extension with no provision for a front sight, I would actually recommend just using stainless. A stainless extension on a blued barrel would look better than a not quite matching blue job. The part could probably be made from some 304 SS sched 80 pipe.
Last edited by P Flados; 12-28-2020 at 12:04 AM.
I believe the qualification is pinned or welded to prohibit easy removal. I have a 14" 17 Remington bbl someone lengthened with a piece of 22 lr bbl to 16 3/4". It's threaded and pinned.
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If it's pinned, the pin heads (or head if blind pinned) need to be welded over by ATF regs.
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FYI, the ATF letter I saw says that pin needs to welded over. Elsewhere is says tack welds do not count.
Other choice is high temp silver solder.
Your barrel, so do what you wish within your budget and ideas.
I have the same want and am thinking of have them threaded, just for some brakes I’d like to build. But I don’t plan on using them as a carbine, I just want to have some fun making some brakes!
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I had planned to SBR my contender this year and use a folder with my 10” barrels. Then this mess with braces got fired up so now I have a brace ordered for the contender. One of two things will happen, they will do another run at braces and I will get grandfathered in for a free form 1 OR I will have a braced contender. Practically the brace serves the same purpose the folder would. The biggest difference is I wanted to holster the folder, and I don’t want to spend a small fortune on parts to convert this than and the other to take an AR buffer and an AR folder etc. I’m just going to replace my grip cap with a plate with a rod extended out the rear and size up a small chunk for the brace to attack to in upside down form. I prefer that anyways having shot a European spec revolver with a weighted rod to the rear, the rod resting against the forearm is not bad at all.
As for adding a bloop tube... make it decorative and make it stainless. For a 44 I would be looking at a large and shiny joker to hang off the front. Something that looks at home on a big bore rifle pin it, tig it, polish it. Look up the Obsidian Colosus intended for 450 bushmaster. That may be an option.
You could sell one of the 14" and buy a super 16.
Bulberry is now out of business, retired and closed.
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Troy, the head gunsmith and machinist bought the business and changed the name to Bullberry Legacy. I just got a barrel from him a couple of weeks ago. It is every bit as good as the others I've gotten over the years, and was made by the same man. They never actually closed either; it was a seamless transition.
https://www.bullberrylegacy.com/
Check it out.
i am glad to hear the, they have a very good name in the business.
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