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    Thank you for the link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew P View Post
    Mine still doing well, although I've pretty much abandoned using any SS pins. They are a big pain in the butt compared to nothing at all, and I can tumble a lot more brass in each batch without them.
    So far I've used the tumbler with ceramic media from harbor freight, SS pins, powder coat powders for bullets, and lots of brass. The rubber liner on the drum seems to be of a very high quality. Very thick.
    What do you use, then? And how clean does it get the cases?

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    As you Requested.. Comparing The 2 They are Basically The same . Please remember My Model B is 20years Old
    Please review
    Ballistic Bill ///////////////// Thumler model B Hi speed
    Fasco Motor Assembled in Mexico ///////////////// Fasco USA
    #712112960 ///////////////// #71215777
    Type U21B //////////////// U21
    115V /////////////////// 115v
    Hz 60 /////////////////// Hz60
    rpm 3000 ///////////////// rpm 3000
    HP 1/30 //////////////// HP1/30
    Sealed ball Bearing ////////////////// Sealed Ball Bearings


    There is No differecne I can see. Between the 2. The only Diff is the way The carriage is Fabricated and the Lock screw Configuration
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    Sal -

    Since you have both the Thumlers and the Ballistic Bill's, could you please compare the labels on each motor? Are they identical motors by manufacturer and model?

    Thanks!

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    Thank you! ^^^^^
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    I'm sure everyone who purchase one got Theres. I like mine any bad feedback or not
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    2 thumbs up - ran 1000 30'06 thru with 5# SS pins.

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    Have had mine three weeks now, runs great, smooth and quiet.
    Pins, joy, lemon shine and water for three hours.
    Brass comes out looking new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggernosis View Post
    What do you use, then? And how clean does it get the cases?
    I just use brass cases to bang into each other and clean themselves. Works great. Just doesn't clean inside primer pockets or inside case, but I don't care about those areas anyway.

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    Do NOT buy this piece of garbage

    The Ballistic Bills Tumbler is absolute garbage made in China and I bought 5 and meant to gift them but mine fell apart within 2 weeks. I joined this group just to throw out this warning.
    The tumbler is not well made, the screws have to be cut off right off the bat just to be able to attach the drive shaft. The pully on the motor had to be cleared because each of them had a burr on the inside. The rubber on the shafts started to shred and we tried to replace them and then the barrel wouldn't turn.
    The quality and workmanship is garbage. No other way to put it. They aren’t even made the same from shaft to shaft. The knurling is different on each one. On one it was so fine that it stripped the pully completely off the drive shaft. Had to replace it.
    The rubber on every shaft melted and shredded. Every single belt broke. All shafts have to be replaced with quality parts from Thumblers. Which is costing me about $300
    Belts were $4.99 each on top of that.

    My advice to you is MADE IN THE USA. Get Thumblers. Not a single issue. Hope this helps since they are still selling on eBay.

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    That seems to Be very Good Feedback . Thanks for your Info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggernosis View Post
    Magnets work with SS pins?
    Some SS is magnetic.
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    I purchased my machine in 2017. put many M's case through it without Problem. Mine had not shown any problem as you state . Just took it Out of the box and ran. Maybe you should post photo's to show the problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynchMob View Post
    The Ballistic Bills Tumbler is absolute garbage made in China and I bought 5 and meant to gift them but mine fell apart within 2 weeks. I joined this group just to throw out this warning.
    The tumbler is not well made, the screws have to be cut off right off the bat just to be able to attach the drive shaft. The pully on the motor had to be cleared because each of them had a burr on the inside. The rubber on the shafts started to shred and we tried to replace them and then the barrel wouldn't turn.
    The quality and workmanship is garbage. No other way to put it. They aren’t even made the same from shaft to shaft. The knurling is different on each one. On one it was so fine that it stripped the pully completely off the drive shaft. Had to replace it.
    The rubber on every shaft melted and shredded. Every single belt broke. All shafts have to be replaced with quality parts from Thumblers. Which is costing me about $300
    Belts were $4.99 each on top of that.

    My advice to you is MADE IN THE USA. Get Thumblers. Not a single issue. Hope this helps since they are still selling on eBay.
    When did you buy these? I don't seem then listed for sale anymore.

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    Let see the Photo.s
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    It looks just like my Thumbler except it is red and that one is blue.
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    The poster did say it was made in China. i saved the old paper work. there is no indication of That. Iwas under the impression all imports had to be labeled as such. Maybe i,m wrong
    When I first received this machine in 2017, it has all the earmarks of being made by Diamond Pacific. Diamond pacific Blue paint it matches 100% to there Color. Diamond Pacific Drum with There internal Rubber mark "2". I have Diamond pacific 15 Lb tumbler. what else can I say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    When did you buy these? I don't seem then listed for sale anymore.
    there still on ebay, $167 i dont think we supposed to post links

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    I did not Know They were for sale again.
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    I just got one 2 weeks ago, and I am disappointed. From looking at pics of the thumler its probably because the thumler is not well built either. The motor is held on by two long bolts and the back part with all of the weight just kind of dangles unsupported. It makes the shaft angling up and not level, so i built up something to grab one of the 4 extra screws to keep it level. The pulley is out of round and wobbly on the one i have so the clear belt keeps vibrating, despite adjusting the smaller pulley on the shaft, and eventually the belt works itself free. the Barrel itself is sort of out of shape, and makes a consistent rattle and rub to the axels each rotation. I wouldnt buy this or the thumler.
    There was one positive. When I did a run with water and no brass inside, it didnt leak so the rubber liner and lid seal is decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salpal48 View Post
    I did not Know They were for sale again.
    I did a saved search and they appear on and off over the past few months.

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