lloyd, it isn't that I'm cheap, broke, or stingy. You know about me. You know I have safes that are full from purchases, estate sales, and inheritance. It is, I think, that I am SCARED WITLESS to go to a Dillion. That I might LIKE IT TOO MUCH. That it won't at all be compatible with my complete line of RCBS dies, shell plates, presses, and accessories. That STARTING OVER with a Dillon probably is past, now in retirement, with the non-competitive and zero demand shooting that I do. I didn't find, nor look for, the firing range friendships many fostered in their lives. I had my own, anytime range to 300 yards, a single good time hunting and shooting friend (now passed), and I took full advantage of those in the time we had together. Do I need a better progressive than the PBII today? Convince me...I am thinking I am past my prime.