I recently bought a Saeco lubrisizer on fleabay. I had originally looked for either a Lyman or RCBS. There is no way I will pay the prices they are bringing. I saw a used RCBS LAM2 go for $365 and another for $325. Lyman 450's are going for $275- $305. Lyman 45's are going for $90 - $120. To me this is just madness.