So for my 358 Winchester I have been using the 35-200 at about 2100 fps. Been working on my hunting load. I also decided to load some low recoil easy shooting loads for target/plinking. I used the recent group buy mold from Arsenal. Was the 358-158 with no grooves for powdercoating. With gas checks and powdercoat, my boolits weigh 164 grains. Loaded some using Unique powder. Under a 12.1 charge, 5 shots went into .75 at 50 yards. Very minimal recoil, fairly quiet, and just an absolute joy to shoot! of these at a sitting is not enough, want to load 50 for my next outing! Only thing is the meplat is too wide to feed properly, so will be loading them one at a time. Color was gotten by mixing the Signal Blue and Traffic purple from smoke.