The Lee Dies work well as is, but I wanted more of a cone crimp like the surplus rounds. So I got a .25-35 Lee sizing die, then ground off the bottom of the die until the shoulder gave me the crimp I wanted. It's a fun round to tinker with. 3 Grains of American Select gave me just under 1000 fps with the Lee 311-100, cases fall right out. I got 200 PRVI cases from Grafs, keep them well annealed. Does a nice job on Armadillos out on the farm.