got stick when I bought my lyman 450 new have never used anything else. the only thing it does not work good for is black powder. for those I have another 450 with spg lube.
got stick when I bought my lyman 450 new have never used anything else. the only thing it does not work good for is black powder. for those I have another 450 with spg lube.
There is something about handling those brown sticks of boolit lube that just makes me happy. Yes, there are other lubes that work, but a stack of 30 cal rifle boolits just seem to be decorated properly with that in the grooves and a shiney gas check. Am I nuts?
Washing Mike
I bought so much of it premixed years ago when one supplier was shutting down, that I'll probably never use it all up. I also have a lot of the ingredients. It has always worked well regardless of temperature. The only downside is smoke, but that is less at higher temperatures.
BP use SPG lube
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Anybody ever try increasing the amount of alox? Say, to 60/40 or 70/30?
Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.
GONRA gotta gallon can of ALOX 2128 after the American Rifleman's waaaaaay back original article.
Been using "Pure ALOX 2138" (no beeswax) asa bullet lube (auto pistol cartridges) for decades.
Lube grooves are located in the neck of the loaded cartridge so the sticky external lube isn't any problem.
Most of the gallon can contents remain of course...
45/45/10. Works for what I need.
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We have on Lyman Luber dedicated to the stuff. It works well. AS many others wrote.. probably have enough in sticks now to last all my years.
Mike in Peru
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+1 on that issue!!
I used to buy Javelina or Tamarack as needed. At one point a local commercial caster had a pail of Alox 2831F for sale. Something like 35# in that pail, found several big blocks of Beeswax on eBay, the first purchase I made there. Made my own stick mold, which now belongs to a member here. Sold enough to pay for the materials and still had 25-30# left. Still have enough of that left, mostly in 1+/-# tubs which I melt and pour into the Star sizer as needed, to carry on for the rest of my life.
Fed many thousands of 429421 through a SBH when I was shooting metallic silhouettes. All full power loads never had to clean the barrel unless the gun got wet. Still using it for 30-30 and trying to find the upper limit before it gives any leading.
PS: The last I knew the closest thing to 2138F was Alox 350. If you add 7%, by weight, of micro-crystalline wax(Carnauba & similar types, maybe even paraffin) you get 2138F. There is information out there about what constitutes "micro-crystalline wax" I found it once never needed to look it up again.
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Double that sentiment!
Of course, what do you expect from someone who'se powder selection consists of Bullseye, Unique, 2400 and SR4759? (OK, still got some old DuPont cans of 4227, 4198)
I gotta have that smell, especially on the indoor range.
Gives the kiddies something to think about!
Jim
I use it along with quite a few other ingredients made big batch that i thought would last my lifetime wrong family and friends are getting it off me every time they come over. Next batch might keep secret.
I bought 2 gallens of alox a few years ago, so im sure i have enough to last me my lifetime. Im using it strait, on 38 special, 25 auto, and soon, 32 s&w long. I cast for my friend as well, and he use it for 44 special and 45 colt.
I like it in my lubrisizers as no heat required and I get very little leading in my handgun loads. I also like the smell but hate the smoke
If that's what the current Lyman lube is, yes, still using it!
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Yup, I use it too. I have a lot of Tamarack left from the old days, and I bought some WLL that I liked too. I will probably buy more as I use up my Tamarack.
Actually, the only other lubes I use are LLA for the boolits that's appropriate for, and LBT Blue Soft for my rifle boolits.
I like "playing" (aka experimenting) with my casting/reloading stuff and I make a lot of my own lube. But I usually have some 50/50 around somewhere, and if not I usually have the stuff to make it. It just plain ole works...
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My original batch of 45/45/10 dried out over the years, turning completely solid. I continued to use it that way by putting a tiny scoop/scraping in a pan of bullets and heating the pan until the bullets were hot enough for the lube to melt and coat the bullets. Tumble around for a spell, and you're done.
The bullets are completely dry and ready to load by the time the bullets cool off a bit, a minute or 5 later.
My next batch of lube, I purposely made it this way. I boiled off all the solvent from the Alox and added only beeswax. Roughly 50:50, and I store it in a not airtight tin.
Pure Alox dries out harder than vulcanized rubber and has a high melting temp. The beeswax is very important to make it practical. Without it, you'd have a stinky smoky hot mess by the time that little chip of pure Alox melted.
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
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