Yes those out of state hunters are SOOOOOOOOOO tasty!
Bolt is locked with the safety on
Bolt opens even with the safety on
Who needs a safety?
Yes those out of state hunters are SOOOOOOOOOO tasty!
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If I'm hunting, there is a round in the chamber. If I'm not, there's not one in the chamber. I like to shoot before the game escapes if possible.
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I much prefer a side safety after market trigger.
A deplorable that votes!
Mauser Sniper Extended Bolt Safety.
Would this work? Only seen pictures, but looks like it would work well with w scope.
In 1984 I drew a Goat tag here in WA, and the rifle I packed for years was a Mauser with an old Jaeger trigger I had converted to a tang safety. When I had the Goat in my sights, I pushed off the safety and pulled the trigger and ???, AHA I did not have the safety off all the way, YUP, BANG in the air over the Goats head. Needless to say two things happened, One the second shot killed old Whiskers, and I never had had another tang safety on a rifle since.
I started working on making Win M70 three positon safetys to fit the Mauser 98 action. Took me a while but got them all figured out and started a nice business making those they of safetsy for quite a number of years. At one point I was making that type of M70 safety to fit 14 differrent actions.
As far as I am concerend it is the only type of safety you should have.
With the lever forward the rifle will fire, in the middle position the cocking piece is retracted and locked, but you can open the bolt to remove any ammo, with the bolt closed, and the safety to the rear the cocking piece is retracted and the bolt handle is locked.
Just my 2 cents.
JW
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The best safety is probably the 98 Mauser with the original military trigger. This whole thread is mostly a consequence of using a scope. If hunting dangerous critters why not forget the scope?
EDG
I've never hunted dangerous critters, or over bait/salt, so most shots are at least a couple hundred yards. Under ideal conditions, I could probably hit game at that distance with open sights or a peep, but I seldom find ideal conditions in the field, so the scope is quite convenient.
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They work very well. On some m98s the have a little bit sloppy feel due to tolerances between the shaft of the safety and it's bore. This doesnt affect it's function. You can remove this play with some teflon tape, or by installing a tiny plastic/nylon pice.
If your wallet is empty and still long time untill payday;
I have to say, the Dakota 3 position safety is a cheap, relatively easy way to make a SAFE propper working rifle. The sniper safety looks like a very viable alternative as well, though i have no experience with it. Another alternative would be a scout scope setup, although in my own oppinion, i think they look goofy. I have never tried on though, so who knows........
I use the Dakota 3 position safety on both of my 98s and love them.
I was thinking of something different obviously. That sniper safety would work but it's ugly and probably not smooth or quiet. I still prefer the left side wing type. Model 70 type is fine if that's what you like. All of them secure the firing pin when on safe.
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If I remember correctly, and it's been many years since I did it, I modified a low scope safety to allow working the bolt with the safety on. So one could unload the gun without taking it off safety.
If I recall correctly, the end of the shaft is not circular. Rather it has a "D" shape to it. What I did was to grind off part of the"D", so that instead of being half the shaft, it was only about 1/4 of the shaft.
That allowed enough clearance so that the bolt could rotate while the safety was engaged.
Dependence on a safety for safety is not a good idea.
I like to have my bolt locked closed even if I carry the chamber empty. Bolt handle often get snagged in brush. With an unlocked bolt your bolt can flop open. I knew a guy who had a sticking bolt stop on a M700 Remington. While elk hunting he found his bolt missing. He had carried his rifle unlocked. His bolt opened and the bolt fell out on the ground. He said his hunting buddies laughed their tails off at no bolt rifle.
EDG
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |