My buddy has a colt thunderer and a lightning and I'm thinking about getting one of them maybe both because when do you have a chance to grab one. By looking around the 41 seems to be costly to buy everything to get started loading for. The 38 doesn't look to bad with some reading looks like you can just use 38 spec stuff. Of course I'm not sure that is true so i come to you guys to find out who's loaded it and how. Brass looks cheap enough to buy from starline for both of them but has anyone used the 38 bullets and dies for one. Plus if anyone has a trick up thier sleeve on the 41 I'd like to hear it. Of course if I get one or both I'll post some pics because we all like to see new guns. Thanks