Hmmm --- appears the facts have caught up with the dream.
Hmmm --- appears the facts have caught up with the dream.
I have a "new" 35 Rem bolt action rifle. Wayne York turned my Winchester Model 70 FW into a 35 Remington. He replaced the 243 barrel with a 223 FW barrel that was rebored and rechambered. He also installed a Sako extractor into the PF bolt and changed out the follower and magazine spring. It looks, feeds, and shoot well.
Last weekend I shot the NOE 360-183 FN and 181 HP with 10 and 11gr of Red Dot. Average velocity was just over 1500fps and the 15 shot group was just under 2" at 50yds. CW cast and PC'd those bullets for me.
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..............I built a 35 Rem using a small ring Mauser action. Very nice rifle. I wish I could post a photo of it but FotoTime is apparently offline, but I hope not forever as I have quite a few valuable pics (at least to me) on the site.
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while most rifles chambered in 35 rem are pump-lever action-semi auto, factory ammo is loaded on the light side for them. a good bolt action would be able to handle higher pressure, how much of a increase in speed i don,t know. but with my 722 rem in 300 savage i can beat factory speeds pretty easy, 150 gr nosler bt at 2800+ fps(i will not shoot that load in a 99 savage) and thats right on the tail of a .308.
Going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit here: What can the 35 Remington do that the 358, 35 Whelen, or 8mm Mauser (or others like 8mm-06, 8mm-08, whatever...) can't do?
I'm a big fan of data-driven decisions. You want to make me smile, show me a spreadsheet! Extra points for graphs and best-fit predictive equations.
All those need a fairly long action. The .35 Rem shines in actions that are short, light, and quick-handling, and is all the power anyone needs in the eastern deer woods where shots rarely go beyond 100 yards or so. The best fit for the .35 Rem is the Marlin 336 carbine. Hard to find a bolt action that is as light and handy.
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A shorter barreled small ring Mauser does that task quite well
I’m a firm believer in the 35 Rem. I started deer hunting at 12 with a Rem 8/35 cal. It wasn’t the slickest handling rifle for a 12year old. In those days they planted me on a stump and wasn’t allowed to run around the woods. Killed my first deer that year with it. My favorite 35 has become a Rem 141 over the years. Until recently I had five 35cal rifles, including a Marlin 336. I just sold the Marlin and had in cheap soft case in cardboard box to ship. Was surprised that it weighed just a bit over 8lbs. I’ve always preferred the Marlin over Win 94 for scope mounting.
First, for whitetail deer and black bear shot inside 150-200 yards, no better cartridge than the .35 Rem has ever been made. Dead is dead and nothing kills them any deader. I doubt that more than two-three percent of legal big game east of the Mississippi are even seen further away.
Second thing, it's low impact velocity means MUCH less meat is shredded. In fact, as ol' Elmer used to say, "I can eat the bullet hole" and I've learned to like that.
Thus, my excellent .243, .308, .30-06 and 7 mm Rem Mag rifles have mostly set in the gun safe for the last 30 years simply because dead is dead and I like eating bullet holes.
IMHO, it would be a sin to build a bolt rifle in .35 R. If that's what God wanted for deep woods hunters he wouldn't have made so many superb 336 Marlins and 2x or 3x 25mm 'scopes.
The 35 is probably my favorite in the woods deer gun. I would be hesitant to go to the trouble to have a BA built for it. I’d go 358 or 35Whelen. I had a 600 in 350mg. I got it used a week old with 1/2 box ammo. This is no joke it resides on the bottom of river above Smooth Rock Falls, Ontario.
Might be in James Bay by now. The following year I picked up another. I though they made excellent rifles for beaters where you didn’t want to risk a good rifle. That one resides in Canada too. My old man gave it to a friend of ours up there. I always wanted to pick up another 350 and have it rebarreled to 458 American. Would have be economical build. I know a guy that has a 660
Barreled to 45 Win Mag. He is still working on feed system.
Dittos, IMHO.
Even in a 336 carbine, the recoil of the .35 Rem is almost trivial compared to those big .35s. Nobody ever developed a flinch shooting the .35 Remington.
Only thing "wrong" with the Remmy is the short neck. Limits your choice of cast bullets. But then, the 358315 sized .360 for the Microgroove is all you could ever want for deer, black bear, or pigs, and any old .35 caliber SWC works for lesser critters or plinking, so who cares?
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I would happily hunt deer anywhere with a .35 Remington bolt action rifle. Especially a light short barreled one like a Remington model 600 or model 7. A small ring Mauser would be nice, too. Even though it came before them, I usually lump the .35 Rem in with the .250 and .300 Savage cartridges- just the right amount of power and polite to shoot.
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i have a win m94 that was sent to JES Reboring and he got a 35/30-30. its almost as good as the 35 rem but it really shines on heavier cast boolits(250-280gr). although i don't use heavy cast boolits, i find that rcbs 200gr fn gc is so good, that i'm afraid to try the heavies!!!
i have a carcano that will be rebarreled to either a 7.62x39 or the 35 rem.
sighting the m94 in at 100 yards
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BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
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