Read some of Elmer Keith's books. He repeats friends of his killed deer and more with the 9mm, and 30 Mausers. Elmer states not his choice but both had good penetration. I would not use a 9mm for hunting.
Read some of Elmer Keith's books. He repeats friends of his killed deer and more with the 9mm, and 30 Mausers. Elmer states not his choice but both had good penetration. I would not use a 9mm for hunting.
The Kaiser used a 9mm carbine in either a Broomhandle or Luger I don't recall for wild boar due to an arm injury quite successfully I might add.A Mountie buddy dispatched a moose with a headshot at 50 yards with his service pistol after it had been hit by a car and was floundering off.Bang flop.
I know a elderly gentleman in Canada that shot and killed a moose with a 9mm pistol. Many, many years ago he was walking on snowshoes; the moose struggled in the 4' deep snow, 2 or 3 shots that could be covered with his hand in the vitals from a couple dozen feet and the moose was dead. Is this preferable? Probably not. Bullet placement is the key.
Over the years I have killed over 25 some of them BIG deer with various 9mm carbines. I would not recommend it for some of the people that are deer hunting these days and a neck shot is not realistic under any conditions. I have tried alot of bullets, the NOE ranch dog 135gr. has always proven a killer with lung hits. I will go get on my stand in 30 minutes with my 9mm crack barrel and not feel under gunned but I also have a great location with 40 yd. food plot.
Only short range, but you can see the bullet gets complete penetration. I am not advocating the 9mm for deer, but this shows it can work, if everything is right, and a perfect shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Uz7LaLCNk
Last edited by Hickok; 12-29-2018 at 09:08 AM.
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I'm thinking with a "better" bullet that 9mm, with that close to perfect shot placement would make for a quicker kill. Regadless it went right through, and through.
I have seen too many deer hit with big cartridges, and run a long way, some were lost. The 30 magnums and 7mm magnums are real popular here. There are a group of hunters who think power can replace accuracy. Unfortunately this is not true! Shot placement is KING as you have shown. I wished everyone practiced half as much as you do.
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I killed a 5pt. this morning at 55yds. with a 135gr. Ranch Dog out of a crack barrel 9mm it went thru both front shoulder blades, he took one step and fell over dead. The ranch dog bullet never lets me down.
I have killed 2-3 deer with a 9mm a 135 grn at 1200fps does wonders out to 50 yards easy
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After shooting my second moose with 30-06 some 20 years ago I actually moved on to 9mm:
The ten yard double-lungshot with Norma factory Oryx did lots of damage and a hole through. The moose bolted, went over half a mile real fast and needed a finishing shot in the head.
So I moved to 9,3x62. Some years later to 45-70.
Last edited by Petander; 01-24-2019 at 04:14 PM.
Im not a 9MM guy...But back in 1999 I bought a Marlin 45Camp Carbine... FIRST this I shot with it was three whitetails!! All where inside 60-75 Yards and two where bang flops! All where shot with 185g Golden Saber +P cause they shot so well.
With warm and +P 9mm loads you have 357Mag hand gun ballistics. Know that some regular and lo pressure target type 9MM might actually LOOSE velocity from the 16" barrel!
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I killed a 5pt. last week with AR 9mm 135gr. Ranch Dog at 55 yds. he fell over lifted his head once and was done. The bullet went through both front shoulder blades,then splashed in the pond behind him. I dont know how much more a deer gun is supposed to do but he is dead.
The load of 125gr. At 1325 out of a 1o" barrel is good if you went with a 13" barrel you would get about 1425 at least. Its a real sweet spot in 9mm.
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