The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
waksupi and rfd, that is the first thing i did after you suggested it, never heard of that lit'l trick, i like it and will pass it on to my friends.and it passed muster it is .749, DIA. and rfd, thank you for the kind words. i have made it for 74+ yrs. and want many more. as i said this site has the best bunch of guys that any could have. PS, as of this post i have shot it with a .735 DIA. RB. and 10 thousandths pillow tick patch,and 75 GRS. of 2FG SCHUTZEN BP. it went off with out a hitch.
There is a H.P.White Lab. report about the firearm in the original post.It's worth searching for and reading.The musket had apparently never been cleaned and had bore restrictions because of that.
An engineer will say anything over 5 full threads is a waste.
well i shot it today. i loaded it with 75 GRS. of SCHUTZEN 2FG. and a 10 thousands pillow tick patch and shot a 5 shot clover leaf at 25 yards. no 4 leaf clover. this is the 2sd. time i have shot it and am very pleased with it. it was the best early XMAS present on could get. now to the task of cleaning it!.
i when i spoke with jim chambers to order out his white lightnin touch hole liners, and explained the mess that jackie brown made of my smoothbores liner hole, he said three solid threads is all that's needed ... at least for a touch liner.
Theres a piece of a cut off bolt sitting on my desk by the computer - (proly a message to clean the junk out of my pockets before putting stuff in the wash) end off a 3/8th whitworth by the looks of it (coarse metric threads are little different) - count five threads - its the full depth of a nut, and a whisker longer than the diameter - pull the nut up tight enough and (most times) the bolt will break clean rather than pull or strip the threads.
Dont like agreeing with experts but I think I back the engineer!
So explain to my whey reinactores shell out all kinds of money for equipment and uniforms. but the thing that can dismember you they buy a cheap peace of Junk?
14th VA. CAV.
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Indian made long guns are sold in the UK as both inert wall hangers and as firearms. All firearms bear proof marks. It is illegal to sell a firearm here that is not proof marked.
Chance
Last edited by Chance; 10-18-2018 at 07:49 PM.
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"Each and every blackpowder firearm must pass a pressure proof test in the official CIP proof house of Gardone to receive the modern blackpowder proof marks. QUOTE]
There is only one proof house in Italy and that is in Gardone. It carries out other work such as testing stab vests. Consider that in that area of Italy you have Uberti, Pietta, Chiappa, Pedersoli, Beretta and a myriad of small gunmakers, all needing firearms and shotguns proofed. Think of how long it takes to load a muzzle loading revolver; then it is placed into a safety chamber and fired six times at 30% more than the recommended maximum charge; then taken out and checked for damage. The attached photograph shows part of the Uberti despatch area. The sheer number of guns produced in these factories renders it physically impossible to test fire and check every one.
Chance
I don't have any proof but just do the maths. I saw a shotgun go through proof. The gun was broken down, pressure bearing parts measured, re-assembled and tested then broken down again and re-measured. How many Italian shotgun manufacturers can you name? All sending guns to Gardone.
Chance
without proof (pun intended) you have nothing but theory.
get the proof that there are guns leaving gardone with proof marked barrels that haven't actually been proofed, to back up yer statement.
and the beat goes on!!
My theory is that the proof houses have inspectors who do the proof testing on site at the facilities of the major manufacturers.
That way the proof testing gets expedited in a timely fashion as the guns are being produced.
The inspectors would be working in their official capacity to save time & money, with the companies even providing them with the proper equipment to do their job as required.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |