I did is look at how much I will shoot of one cal in a years time and how much I use .and for how it looks for me that I am better off buy them made and get a supply of them for what I want and then go with that. I do not go through alot of them in a years time so I see I am better off to just buy them. I use now mainly Gator Checks. They are less then the hornady that is the same set up.