i will start off with i do not have a bottom pour so i don't know. i see people on here say they use bottom pour for handgun but use a ladle for rifle or procession shooting. if this is true then why not just use a ladle. is a bottom pour that much easier or faster? i was considering buying a bottom pour untill i read some of these comments. is it worth while to buy a bottom pour? i really don't want to spend the money if it isn't worth it. alsohow important is a pid ? using just a pot and thermometer i havent seen where 25 or 50 degrees makes much if any diff or am i wrong? like i say never had a bottom pour so know nothing about them.