After looking for production dates for the '91 Argentines I'm stumped. Does anyone know when a rifle made with the N prefix and 4 digit serial number was made?
After looking for production dates for the '91 Argentines I'm stumped. Does anyone know when a rifle made with the N prefix and 4 digit serial number was made?
I've got an "F" marked one from 1893. Seems like a bunch of the links I used to find out the manufacture date no longer work. There is a list on this page partway down. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-387920.html N**** looks to be 1896.
1896 from N0000 to O4999. There were 15,000 total made in 1896 and that was the last year rifles were made by Ludwig Loewe. The name changed to DWM after this batch.
They all have 4 digit serial number as they were numbered in blocks of 9,999 with a letter prefix.
Mine is a C-prefix made in 1892 and is 100% matching down to the cleaning rod.
In July 1961, a gun shop in Lewistown, PA had a barrel full of MINT condition M1891 7.65MM rifles for $16.88 each. My twin brother and I each bought one. Mine was L16XX with a short upper handguard and my bother's was M72XX with a long upper handguard.
The 7.65MM is a fine cartridge. I have several M1909 rifles and all are fine cast boolit arms like the original M1891 rifle.
Adam
1896 from the numbers Dutch gave.
Wayne the Shrink
There is no 'right' that requires me to work for you or you to work for me!
In the early 1960s, every local PA gun shop had many military surplus guns and I wanted them all. I was 15 years old mowing lawns for $1.00 per hour and cut all the grass I could and bought many guns which I still own. The Gun Control Act of 1968 ended those Glory Days of gun collecting and we are all now much safer? I guess San Berdanino, Orlando and Las Vegas were not affected by GCA 1968?
Only honest gun collectors are hindered by "Good Laws", I suppose.
Adam
I found this in meantime. Does my carbine serial number match what is listed here, which is 1892?
Model 1891..Long Guns..........Carbines
1892.........A0000-C4999
1893.........C5000-F9999........A0000-A4999
.........................................B0000-B4999
1894.........G0000-L4999
1895.........L5000-M9999........A5000-A9999
.................BU00-BU199
.................EM00-EM124
.................EN00-EN74
1896.........N0000-O4999
M1891 DWM
1899.........O5000-T7999........B5000-C5999
1900.........T8000-V3999........C6000-C9589
1901.........V4000-W9999........E5540-8039
M1909 DWM
................Long Guns............Cavalry Carbine.....Engineers Carbine
1909.........A0000-A2999
1910.........A3000-K4999........A0000-B1999.........A0000-A5999
1911.........K5000-M9999........B2000-C3999
1912.........N0000-P9999......................................A6000-A9999
Looks like 1899 for a carbine.
Dutch
yes an 1899 is not an antique by the AFTE's definition.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |