Yours: Lester Ackerman, ( & I) would say,
"Here are the rules...( load manuals), Do as ya like, but don't give me any grief if you want to break those rules. You chose to make the mistakes... You suffer the consequences.... Not me..."
Meaning that most everyone uses the load manuals a guidelines to load/reload. If someone wants to do other than those guidelines it is on them, not anyone else.
My Reply: Evidentally Load manuals are NOT the rules as evidenced by Mr Gibsons first post
Obviously, which is why I mentioned load manuals & then how Mr. Gibson is saying they are not always correct. See what I bolded below from my original post...
Yours: Here you are, being kind in sharing
your data & experiences with how those manuals may be mistaken, & giving folks a "Heads Up!" , that they should think about what they are doing... ( Your gate.)
My Reply: You said it "may be mistaken" but who is to say 100 percent that they didnt get thoes results at that time with the combinations of components and lots of components? Can anyone be CERTAIN? Do you KNOW absolutely that with the lots of components they used that Hodgdons results are in error? Has Mr Gibson tested every lot of H4350, every lot of Sierra SPBT 180 gr bullets and every lot of WLRP?
Irrelevant. I am posting in Mr. Gidsons topic about Mr Gibsons research that is IN this topic. Not other folks doings..
Yours: If others do not wish to pay attention to your data & experience(s) and heed them. (Swinging on the hinges)
Then,
they can go develop their own data & experiences & not be concerned with yours that you are being kind in sharing...
My Reply: Certainly Mr Gibson was kind in sharing his experiences I am for one glad he confirmed what I already know and what most experienced reloaders know and that is there is NO load data from anyone including Mr Gibson is 100 percent reliable across the board. Sometimes we can forget about that fact. Ask him if you dont believe it. I dont think for one minute that he thinks he is infallible.
Pure inference. Even a "logical fallacy" perhaps. Definitely a different interpretation of what I was trying to say. Some call it, "putting words into my mouth.". I made no attempt to place Mr Gibson on a pedastal, but only to recognize his efforts.
Yours: [ Perhaps make a topic of their own where they can go into THEIR data & experiences... and THEIR "gate")
My Reply: Are you saying that one developing their own data is impossible? It can be done by careful experimenting watching for the CORRECT signs. Tell that to Someone like JD Jones or Gary Reeder.
Once again, inferring that I am holding Mr. Gibson as higher in his research than anyone else. Not so. I was only recognisinf Mr. Gibson for his efforts & that anyone else who differs with him should do their own research to show folks that either Mr. Gibson is incorrect, verify Mr. Gibsons research or to add another "exception" to the load manuals data.
Yours: See the signature below... It fits, IMO.
It did & still does, IMO.
And Thanks again for your efforts! I , for one, am paying attention.