I use them for all my pistol loads and the collet for my 8 X 57. i've been very happy with the result. Some like Chevy, some like Ford -to each their own. They aren't that expensice- you can get them from Titan or others who are sponsors of this site. Instead of taking someone else's word -buy one and try it out. If you don't like it I'm sure you'd be able to list it in the WTS/WTS section and someone would buy it.