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    Pretty sure it will not work. Bullets, almost, need to be designed specifically for the 357 to get them to work. Some designs will work in multiple cartridges but they are ones w/ short noses.

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    Cool 9mm Elco Solid 156 grains

    I'm a little late to the game here.
    I bought my mould last summer and I casted a couple hundred bullets with it. I sized them and let them sit until 2 weeks ago.

    I loaded them up with Ramshot Silhouette.
    COL is 1.115 inch

    I'm shooting a Glock 22 with a 9 mm conversion barrel.
    Sized to .356 with Magma Green lube.
    3.9 grains 848 fps
    4.1 grains 881 fps
    4.3 grains 924 fps
    4.5 grains 950 fps

    Every thing worked well.
    I didn't like the accuracy I got. I'm going to try again with bullets sized to .357, I'll also try Hodgson Universal.

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    Red Dot and Promo have worked well for me, but the key for me was playing with seating depth. I do size mine to 358. My CZ slugged 356 and both glocks slugged 355. At 1.11 to 1.12 with 2.8 grains of Red Dot, i can get a hundred rounds into a hole the size of a fist at 30 feet with any of the pistols. Settle on a diameter that gives no leading, then change the charge and seating depth for your gun. Magma green ive never used. Lyman SuperMoly has worked for me but it does seem to be dirtier. Im ordering some Tac X in the near future to try.

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    Boolit DOES work in .357 SIG, I'm happy to report.
    I load to 1.145 and using starting 147 grain data.

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    How fast you pushing it in 357 sig?

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    I haven't pushed it too hard, 6.5 grains of 800x and 4.5 gr. 231. Like a really hot 9mm.
    Last edited by Boolseye; 02-09-2017 at 11:11 PM.

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    Heads up...There's more of these available on the Noe shop. He was out of these for a while and now they are in stock.

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    If you want a heavy boolit for 9mm, go for it. It is a great boolit.
    The hollow point drops at 147 grains with my alloy(range scrap).
    Last edited by tazman; 05-15-2017 at 03:15 PM.

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    Has anyone tried this in the .38 Super?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryinIN View Post
    Has anyone tried this in the .38 Super?
    That was talked about during the design stage. The nose is a little long for a 357 Sig but it should work fine in the 38 super. The nose length is almost perfect for it.
    You would be seating at near max length.

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    155 gr flat nose in 38 super would have some knock down power for plates and bowling pins. Nice and hot.

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    Loaded up a dummy round after casting up my first batch of these little suckers. Hope they shoot half as good as they look.

    I had to load the dummy to 1.12 OAL to get it to plunk on the five 9mms I have. Does that sound too short? These things are a good bit taller than the 124gr. RN I have been using, and I'm wondering if that's going to take up too much space in the case

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    If you go back through the thread, you will find you are right in the middle of the range everyone seems to be using. I use slightly longer for my Beretta and others use slightly shorter for their pistols.
    You should be fine with your OAL.
    Due to the design, there is more boolit weight in the nose and less boolit in the case. I think case capacity will be close to the same for the 2 boolits mentioned. You will need to either use less powder or a slower powder due to the increase in boolit weight in any case.

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    Nevermind, looks like a lot of people are getting good results seeing around 1.13-1.12

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    So I've been doing some random tests with the 100 or so I've loaded up. I'm still a little concerned about how deep I'm having to seat these to get reliable plunks. Some are around 1.12 OAL, others at 1.10 or even 1.07. I am using DT powder coat with these, and I realize that's probably the biggest issue, right there.

    Has anybody tried using Hi Tek on these? With it being a much thinner coating I'm thinking it would eliminate a lot of the seating issues

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    I tumble lube these and can seat them to a longer OAL than you need. Since the nose is tapered instead of stepped, powder coating them makes the need to be seated deeper.
    I really don't think the relatively small difference(.050) is going to make much difference from a performance standpoint. You may need to reduce your charge slightly but that should be the extent of it.
    I have never used Hi Tek myself, but if it is a thinner coating, that would help with your issue.

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    From what I understand, Hi Tek should only add about .002 to the size of the bullet, and if it's done right it's a very even and thin coating. I think a big part of my seating issue is how uneven and thick (almost .008 to some of my bullets) the PC is

    Thanks for the info, I can't wait to get these out to the range.
    Last edited by asmith80; 07-08-2017 at 04:29 PM.

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    "Hi Tek should only add about .002 to the size of the bullet..."

    I doubt it. PC will add .002" but Hi Tek will be less, much less.

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    Oh, you're right. I needed to add another zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmith80 View Post
    Has anybody tried using Hi Tek on these? With it being a much thinner coating I'm thinking it would eliminate a lot of the seating issues
    Yes, see post #92

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check