I use to cast 9mm bullets a few years ago. I just used the Lee liquid alox for lube. It is messy, & smokey. But effective. My least favorite part about that is that it never really dries. It always seems to stay tacky. Even the loaded ammo I still have a couple years latter is still sticky. Well I bit the bullet, figuratively that is. I got my first .45 ACP. It's a M&P with a 4" barrel & night sites. I'm in love by the way. After buying my first 500 plated bullets on sale for $58. I decided to start casting again. I also decided I wasn't dealing with that sticky mess again either. After the first couple thousand bullets I cast, I started out trying the powder coat route. It seems to be working just fine so far. It did take me several tries to figure out the right technique that worked for me however. But I'm past that now. Smooth sailing. It's just very tedious and time consuming. I know, I know. This is a lube thread. I'll get to it. So this time around I did more research. I found I may want to lube size them. I had been sizing with a Lee sizer for the .45 to this point. I started looking for a lube sizer. And quickly found I did not want to pay $200 for the press, then dies and punches on top of that. Now as most reloaders & casters are. I don't mind old stuff. Or recycled for that matter. I actually prefer old used stuff for most situations. Hell, my squirrel gun is a 1950 semi auto .22. And I'm from 1975. OK, back to lube. I found a nice Lyman 45 on fleabay. Then I found a nice used RCBS .452 die on fleabay too. The top punch was ordered at the same time. The press also had a stick of "orange" lube in it. Pretty sure I know what it is. And I'm going with that for now. I really like how well it works so far. I also like that I can size & lube quickly without all the sticky mess. And no drying time. I am also going to try out some blocks of the White label lube soon. This is all a new experience for me. And I love it so far. I am always open to tips, tricks, & sage wisdom. I have learned. Once you know everything. It's time to get out. I like to learn and I'm always open to new tricks.