It's true. It exists. A few years ago I started seriously looking, online and local, and finally found some 2400 after a little over a year.
I found Unique and Bullseye after looking twice that long.
Finding a product every year or two leads me to consider that the manufacturer might not be serious anymore.
At the same time, I was able to find Hodgdon and IMR on a regular basis. That leads me to think that Hodgdon might just be a little more serious.
In a way, I'm kind of glad that Alliant pistol powders have been so scarce. It's forced me to branch out and become a more rounded handloader.
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I bought several pounds of it at the last gun show
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Hi...
2400 has been available in my area for some time.
Even during the recent shortages it would show up intermittently at one or two local gun shops. Prices fluctuated widely but seem to have returned to pre-shortage levels although the highest priced shops have continued to charge mid-shortage levels. I truly don't know how they sell any when a few miles away the price is right around $19-20 for a 1lb container.
2400 and Unique are available in Central Texas. LGS has some but not everyday. Cabelas has nearly everything. I was so surprised the other day. They have a lot of most components. Unlike a month before the election. Just Sayin!
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Dose LC use alot of there powders? because for how it looks that when there is a order for so much ammo for the mil. that is when Alliant powder start to not show up much. I know Scheels in Cedar Falls, Iowa Have there powder more then Cabelas in PDC, WI.
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I watched the interview with Chris Hodgdon that was put up. In one part he explained how the powder was produced. Some think that a plant produces, say, 1,000lbs of several powders at a time in a continuous cycle. He said that is not how it works. A plant runs an entire production of a batch of one powder at a time then switches to a different one. If that one powder that was produced does not come around for another production cycle for another month then it's understandable that it would have been sent out to dealers, sold and not be on the shelves until the next run if production is high.
I had not thought of it but the last time I was in a Cabelas I saw the shelf full of powder. VV, AA etc but not much Alliant at all.
I think that after 8yrs of Obama the powder shortage will ease some and we will be able to find it a little easier.
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This might be the answer as to why it's so hard to find retail. The bulk of it is going for commercial ammo.
I seem to remember in one of the Power Factor interviews with Chris Hodgdon that they service the retail market before the commercial. That would explain a lot as to why some powder is more available than others.
Why are your powders so hard to find?
The unprecedented demand for commercial ammunition, powder and other reloading components has exceeded the industry's ability to keep product on the shelves at most retail outlets. In response to this industry-wide issue, we are continually making process improvements to increase our efficiency and investing in capital and personnel where we have sustained demand. We remain committed to serving all channels of our business.
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Last year I ran a 2400 and AA#9 comparison test in my .357 Magnum handguns and rifles. The exact same charge of both listed powders produced near identical velocities. Accuracy only varied a minor bit between the two listed powders and I used the powder which gave the best accuracyu. Where I live in NE PA, I have not had any difficulty finding Alliant or Accurate powders. My test included all manor of cast bullets suitable for the .357 Magnum from 150 grain to 215 grain. Best accuracy in my tests were with intermediate weight boolets of 165 to 180 grains.
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I have found ever more of the scarce powders showing up. H110, 2400, the Dot's, and Varget. But not always in quantity. Or not all in stock at the same time. Makes it hard to put together an online order that supplies "all your needs" in one shot. And instead of 8# jugs might end up with 1# jugs. But at the last gun show I saw 8# of Varget and was tempted but I have 10#'s in 1# jugs and too much to spend right at the holidays.
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It took me a long time to realize and believe it, but there's been an AWESOME increase in demand for powder, primers and bullets. The factories ARE churing at an all time high rate. Obama's plan called for the gov't to buy more 9mm and .40 ammo than they could really use, for more and more gov't agencies that are armed, and that took up some of it. The rest is just increased demand due to more and more folks FINALLY waking up and realizing that having and knowing how to use a gun really IS a "good idea" these days. Also, folks who already shot and reloaded were buying up more and more "stuff" against maybe its becoming unobtainable at some uncertain point. So ... demand has FAR more than doubled, and it did it almost overnight.
Add in the fact that anti-business, and anti-gun sentiment and laws made to inhibit those things, make it impossible to erect more factories to produce these commodities, and .... presto! ..... you've got a "component shortage," simply because there's no longer enough to go around to everyone wanting it in the quantities they're wanting it.
Look at the shooting forums on the 'net! They're all growing, and at a fast pace. This ain't because folks are bored with shooting now, or because they'll "do that tomorrow," but because there was a very REAL motivation to get and hoard precious components and ammo and guns, lest one find one's self in a position of having nothing but a silly grin with which to protect ourselves.
Complaining about the powder companies, and putting THEM down is NOT a very appropriate or functional or called for reaction on our part. When someone is doing all they CAN ..... well, obviously they CAN'T do any more, and simply WANTING more doesn't git-r-done. One thing I hope Trump will do is make opening and building new factories, specifically more munitions factories, so we CAN have all the ammo we want. Of course, the companies have to wonder just how long this "necessity buying" will last, and they have no crystal ball in which to see the future of what has become a very willful and flighty people, so ..... we're basically gonna' have to wait and see how it all works out. The wise have long ago stashed enough to survive, at least for a while, and it takes a LOT more than most folks think, to survive an apocalypse. A LOT more! Few are really prepared for it, simply because few have the $$$$$ to spend toward it.
Ain't this "New Millenium" fun now!!!
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