I have a bunch of manuals. That said, printers, paper punches and three ring binders are my friends.
I have a bunch of manuals. That said, printers, paper punches and three ring binders are my friends.
R.D.M.
The thought that immediately enters my mind about data on a computer site is.....doesn`t anyone own a printer that is hooked up with your computer so you can print it off?Robert
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A guy can never have too many load manuals.
Been going through my Dad's stuff lately and he has powders that haven't been made in years that are still good. Got about four pounds of old Alcan 120, darn little data for it. A few others too. Fortunately, he had enough loading manuals amassed over the decades that I managed to find enough data to put it to use.
There's something about laying out two or three manuals with your load log or notebook and trying to come up with a load that will work for your situation. For some reason I'm more comfortable doing that than jumping from site to site. And yes, at least one will probably be "out of date" but still quite useful.
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They send them out free if you fill out the form on line. I think it takes about 6 weeks to arrive though.
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Yes the do...or they did.
I got the 2016 paper manual sent to me.
When I seen this post, I went to their website to try and get the 2017, and could not find where to submit for the new 2017 paper manual for free???
I'll have to check with the LGS, on my next visit.
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This.
The problem with internet catalogs, or internet manuals, is that you have to know what you are looking for to find it.
A paper manual or catalog can be browsed. One can leisurely leaf through, discovering new and interesting tidbits. Websites have their place, and I use them extensively, but nothing beats a book or catalog in hand.
I'm a little leery of the 357 Sig loads now. They list only a max charge of 800-X at 9.0 grains w/ a 147 grain XTP. Case was full to the top. It's not denoted as a compressed charge. 8.5 grains was still in the neck. I backed off a full grain because of this. If it was marked as a compressed charge I wouldn't be as worried.
I look at Hodgdon's yearly magazine as an annual update for my 1st ED LEE Reloading book. I have seen a change in the recommended powder ranges several times for various rifles and pistols over the years as the canister lots get updated or even discontinued (IMR 4007SSC was one of my favorite medium-slow powders but it was recalled and discontinued by Hodgdon in 2015 while I still had several pounds left.)
I don't believe the new Red or Green load data was in the annual but I saw those powders for the first time in the gunshop last week when I had to restock some H380.
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I swing both ways. On my library bookshelves are reloading manuals/mfg. pamphlets going back to the late 1960's...all well-thumbed and dog-eared with post-it tabs marking specific calibers for quick reference. Above my reloading bench, are Lee's 'Modern Reloading', Water's 'Pet Handloads', and the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook (4th edition) so, obviously, I like having hard-copy available. But, on the other hand, these days I don't often sit down at my bench without my HP laptop within reach. I've got Wi-Fi off my cable ISP. so online resources are immediately available, as well.
Bill
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I have printed out numerous pages of load data from Accurate, Lyman #48. It is so much easier to review 20 printed pages of data that all directly pertain to cartridges I load for rather than having to thumb through large volumes to find the pages I'm looking for. The printed pages take up so much less space and it's easier to keep in a handy location. I also feel less guilty about scribbling notes on the printed pages and the back sides are blank allowing my to jot down notes regarding differing OAL's and load data that has worked out well in the past.
Good info, but quit calling me "Manuel".
Wish I had the printed manuals that I lost when the basement (and reloading cave) flooded a couple of years ago. Still haven't recovered all the way. Can reload some and still planning to put it in the garage and set it up different. But you can say I'm a paper guy but will look up on the internet too.
There is this techy thing called a printer I use it! works great!
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I Am Descended From Men Who Would Not Be Ruled
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum
There is enough fat in the federal government that if you rendered it you could wash the world
Ronald Reagan.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |