A few years ago, Kansas started a two-day antlerless season which they now call the pre-rut antlerless season. For the past several years, I always had a work commitment pretty much every weekend of September and early October, so never really got to partake (it also has screwed up my muzzle loader season, but it was way too hot and buggy this year anyway). This year I got to get out and successfully use a 1907 Winchester and some cast loads. I need to work with this one more, but the old rifle worked fine.