What is EXACTLY is Blackmaxx bullet coating?

[OilyPablo]

I originally asked on THR and no one seems to know.

The manufacturer says it's not a polymer. So is it a metal? An oxide? A ceramic?

[Beagle333]

It looks like the Lubalox that Winchester used on the Black Talons back in the day, which was a proprietary oxidation process of the bullet jacket. The Blackmax bullets are solid copper HPs (or the ones I saw were) and so they could have been oxidized in the same way if somebody knew that process.
'Just guessing.

[flyingmonkey35]

Per the website. FAQ s

Oxidized copper.

http://crossfireammunition.com/index...d=49&Itemid=41



Q:What’s the idea behind using Black oxide on brass and bullets?



A:Black Oxide is not a plating process.
It is formed in a chemical reaction with the metal itself. In ferrous metals you may recall that ferrous oxide is Fe2O3 – rust. Black Oxide with ferrous metals is Fe3O4.* Black Oxide* combines with the iron atoms on the surface, but does not increase the thickness of the material.* With copper, “cupric oxide” is formed when the copper inside the brass or in the bullets is oxidized. This Black Oxide provides a tarnish and scratch resistant finish and will last indefinitely (without abrasion). The local company that does our Black Oxide work also did the same for Olin-Winchester on their Black Talon™ ammunition, and recently the bases of the new 410(3-disk) shells designed for The Judge™.

[OilyPablo]

Very interesting.

But is Black Max the same as Black Maxx?


http://monmouthreloading.com/product...-point-coated/

http://shootersbullets.com/shop/40-c...price-per-500/

[flyingmonkey35]

Now those are interesting. I wonder what it is.

Looks like powder coat. So they are 1 lying or 2 have a patten pending.

[OilyPablo]

I may buy some!

[monmouth]

Now those are interesting. I wonder what it is.

Looks like powder coat. So they are 1 lying or 2 have a patten pending.

We never lie about our products and have been selling these bullets to many happy customers. We are very thankful that we sell a small bag and then the customer comes back for the monster box quantities. Many times they refer them to their friends. We try to keep our prices very competitive and deliver consistent products.

[flyingmonkey35]

We never lie about our products and have been selling these bullets to many happy customers. We are very thankful that we sell a small bag and then the customer comes back for the monster box quantities. Many times they refer them to their friends. We try to keep our prices very competitive and deliver consistent products.

You will have to forgive our skepticism when it come to cast bullets we want to know what it is to see if we can replicate or improve.

98% of all bullet improvements come form caster 's and hand loaders.

We already nailed federal on the syntech coating.

So the question stands whats on your bullet?

I may buy some!

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[OilyPablo]

Indeed. The question has not really been answered.

[RP]

I would go with a trade secret. He states what it is not but not what it is so I feel like it is something that they do not want to share at this time. May be a pending patent or maybe its like bull lube if its shared it would cut into their sales.

I can see this thread going downhill lets avoid that thanks in advance.

[magoo1]

If one looks at Shooters Bullets it states This is a not teflon, moly, or polymer coating.
So could it be a Epoxy Coating? Is some of the Powders, Epoxy based rather than Polymer?

[flyingmonkey35]

If one looks at Shooters Bullets it states This is a not teflon, moly, or polymer coating.
So could it be a Epoxy Coating? Is some of the Powders, Epoxy based rather than Polymer?

I thought of that to epoxy is wet based paint or wet chemical wederlandertv on YouTube started with those a few years back and found PC to be faster.



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[ryokox3]

We never lie about our products and have been selling these bullets to many happy customers. We are very thankful that we sell a small bag and then the customer comes back for the monster box quantities. Many times they refer them to their friends. We try to keep our prices very competitive and deliver consistent products.

The smallest I saw on your website was a 500 count. Is that the 'small bag' you mentioned or did I not look in the right spot.